200A and 202 reproduction
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in stock.

colemanjim

I took my Arc over to Ronnies  to compare. Here are the differences I found.I would like feeback if you have a Arc to see different burners assemblies to determine early or late factory changes.  I can not find very much information on different parts used.This would be good information for the new green book. Newby Arc owner  Jim

                            My Arc                                                  Ronnies Arc

 

Air tubes -    round   5 1/2 " long            Square 4 1/2" long

Burner tubes -       larger                                      smaller

Burner caps -        square edges                         tapered rounder edges

Manifold -              has a seperate plate                    One piece manifold

                       with 3 holes burner tubes go into        no seperate plate

Collar -             Air O lantern QL                                Coleman Arc

Bail -                     same

cone  -             Square slots                                         round holes

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SteveRetherford

mine has the square tube and cone holes , and arc marked frame rest . square edge burner caps . not sure about the manifold  can i see a pic of yours ? and the burner tubes ??? you mean longer or shorter were you say larger or smaller ? im confused

[DrSteve2]    Steve , Keeper of the Light !!!
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Jim_l
My air tubes are round-5"
Burner tubes- Large
Burner caps- squared edges
Manifold- ? Looks like yours Jim.
Collar- unmarked
Bail- I made my own
Cone- round holes, but there are four little notches so a square one might fit?
    Jim

Matthew 5:16: "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven." Jim-- Coleman Blues Member #014
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colemanjim

The diameter is larger on the tubes. See the piece on the bottom of the manifold that the tubes go into looks like OOO looks like a seperate piece.




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SteveRetherford

i can just see part of the valve body thru the frame , and it looks like mine , i have seen some others that didnt have the taper at the top n bottom of the valve body  , look'd more squared off  . also i believe (FROM MEMORY  there was a small offset on the valve body and it had to orientd one way up or down i cant seem to remember . i have actualy had another arc lantern for a short time before the pictured here and it had the squared valve body . but i dont know if one is more corect or not , so i am likeing this post . i have the lamp guilds coleman CD and there are a lot of good diagrams and pictures of multiple arcs in . il have to get it out and refresh my thoughts . it shows the diferences between a yale , a sunshine and a coleman arc , for an arc owner i think its a must have . PM me . your a HAPPY MAN !!! i know that much .

[DrSteve2]    Steve , Keeper of the Light !!!
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SteveRetherford

From looking at your pics i think my fuel cap is different ftom yours . i have seen two styles that fit these but dont know if one is more corect than the other , or early and late  . one just looks like a quick lite fuel cap just a little bigger , then there is another version that had a leather pad built in the top of the air stem to seal against the hand pump better , and there is another leather seal in the lower section of the cap were the airstem meets the bottom half its more of a 7 piece fuel cap , 4 brass pieces , 2 leather pieces and the original lead fount seal . i have both caps but didnt know wich one to use , i ended up using the one with the leather for now . these same caps fill all the air o lite  lamps as well .

[DrSteve2]    Steve , Keeper of the Light !!!
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SteveRetherford
i had to rework it as the leather had rotted , i used rubber for my top replacment were it meets the hand pump and a small o-ring for the bottom seal in the cap were the air stem meets the cap

[DrSteve2]    Steve , Keeper of the Light !!!
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SteveRetherford

ok i looked over the lamp guilds CD it showed most of the arcs with the square air tube but there was one version of a safety sunshine that had a round air tube (like the one on the cover of the green book ) but then i noticed on the same CD disc that the 319 shown has the round holes but has a shorter cone  . i dont know that it answers anything , but there is certainly a lot of arc info on this CD . more than i found any were else .

[DrSteve2]    Steve , Keeper of the Light !!!
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Spitvalve
Here's the vital statistics on my Arc:

Air tube--square
burner tube--narrow diameter
burners--tapered, rounder edges
manifold--one piece, no separate plate
Collar--Arc lantern. Wichita production that ended up in Eastern Ontario.
Cone--square slots for air tube
Fuel cap--Quicklite style

Mike.
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Steve

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Its mostly the same as Mike's the burners are same, tapered.  I noticed the nuts are all square and not hex.  Stamped Coleman Arc Lantern Wichita.  Originally sold to a farmer in Nebraska.
Sean

Jackson NJ

Some pics from of my collection.

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SteveRetherford

i just love this thread , keep em coming .

[DrSteve2]    Steve , Keeper of the Light !!!
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Jim_l
OK. I see. My manifold looks like yours Jim.
   Here's my valve


    Jim

Matthew 5:16: "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven." Jim-- Coleman Blues Member #014
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Sparks

how do you get one of those cds.

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Scouterjan
Steve, your picture of the fuel caps, the bottom one looks the same as a Model A lamp. Dang, I must get one of those CD's been saying that for a couple of years
Jan



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Brent

mine is more like Mike's, with the square ends and the cone that accepts them. Also had the squared ridges on the burner tubes. Brent

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SteveRetherford

GUYS !!! i said PM me about the disc ...and no one did .

[DrSteve2]    Steve , Keeper of the Light !!!
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Jim_l
PM'ed
Matthew 5:16: "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven." Jim-- Coleman Blues Member #014
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CrazyCamperGreg
Just got an arc and don't know much about it but with all the info I am getting hear I should be up to speed soon. Can't wait to get mine finished.
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Russ
PM sent.
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mikewells

 I wish I had one 
Mike Wells
E Bay user name whitegas5152
ICCC # 1038
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Spitvalve
PM sent, Steve.

Mike.
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dbosch

I’m leaning that this is a later Arc because of the AOL base rest, the filler cap and the round tube and longer, larger burner tubes.  Reasons for this is the round tube appears to be  #27 hollow wire hardware and the AOL base rest.  The longer, larger tubes fit the description for the #27 which is advertised as a 1000 CP lamp that uses larger mantles.  Coleman was notorious for being frugal with their parts and making strange assemblies to use up old parts.  The Arc was made into the early 1920’s.  I don’t know why because the Model QL put out the same light and was much lighter and smaller.  Maybe it was nostalgia.  Nevertheless, the fount cap is later due to the later version filler cap.  It doesn’t have the earlier version that has the larger thumb wheel with the leather seal – the same found on the AOL lamps.

 

The teepee has the square holes because that was the standard shape for the Arc and the original 250 Outdoor Light Fixture.

 

I’m thinking they used up old parts to assemble late version Arcs when production was very low for this model.  Shipping numbers were only in the low hundreds monthly for the Arc in the 1918 and later dates while LQ lanterns were produced in the 1000’s per month.  I’m believing this is one of those lanterns.  That doesn’t subtract from your Arc, it just makes an interesting story.


Any other insight or theories?

Dan B.  ICCC #100
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colemanjim

Little more information. I looked at 2 more Arc 316 lanterns today to compare. Both had square air tubes and square holes in the cone. The square holes in the cone will not fit over my round tubes too small. They both had smaller and shorter burner tubes than mine . One had one type of filler cap and one had the other. Who knows what is right. Also looked at a 319 today. The burner is completly different and the cone is much smaller .But did have short round air tubes. Generator looks same as 319. 

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Scouterjan
Jim, how is Ronnie doing these days? sure miss him posting on the board
Jan



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