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Ridge Runner
Most are probably using the Crescent wrench method to take the whole 220/228 burner assy. off, but what about this:
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It looks like it would fit nicely through the side of the frame and over the E-block housing for removal. I have different Klein adjustable wrenches and none seem to have the right head/jaw angle to go up through the burner frame (or out of the back) without binding against the top or side post of the frame itself.

I was thinking about picking one of these up but was wondering if you all had any experience with one on a 220/228 - good, bad, or otherwise?

-- L.J.

— L.J.
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Smudge
I inherited 3 different sizes from my father. They're all I use, or need, on 220 type burner/valves along with a vice to hold the wrench. They're handy tools all around.
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Eel
I actually bought "the tool" rather than making one, will be using it this PM on a 220B.  These "Ford wrenches" look great for the task.
Do be careful of your pricker-lever housing.

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Ridge Runner
Eel, just wondering, what are you using to hold the fount? I assume you’re using the tool with a socket wrench, or will you use an impact driver? (I’m nervous of the impact driver on brass founts 😬)

— L.J.
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Ridge Runner
Smudge wrote:
I inherited 3 different sizes from my father. They're all I use, or need, on 220 type burner/valves along with a vice to hold the wrench. They're handy tools all around.


Thats nice to have different sizes. Even better that they were your Dad’s! Is there a particular go-to size/length that you found works best for your 220 types?

— L.J.
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Gand28
I do this...

https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/easy-disassembly-of-a-220-or-228-9710183?pid=1305118884

And hold the fount with my hands!
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Eel
Eel, just wondering, what are you using to hold the fount? I assume you’re using the tool with a socket wrench, or will you use an impact driver? (I’m nervous of the impact driver on brass founts 😬)


Oh dear, NO IMPACT WRENCH Please!  Even on rugged steel founts that's a bad idea imho -
I hang a socket-w(r)ench extension from the vise, stack enough stuff up so the cage rim is above the vise, and spin the fount by hand - the cage goes wherever the cage goes, I have a modified plastic coffee-can lid to fit between collar and fount.

EEL Eclectic Lanterns, div.  Doofenshmirtz-EEL Incorporated.

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Gunhippie
Regular Crescent (mine's actually a Rigid) wrenches work just fine for me. 12" (300mm) is the thing. To avoid damaging the eccentric housing, go in from the back so the wrench jaws don't hit the end of the housing.
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Smudge


Thats nice to have different sizes. Even better that they were your Dad’s! Is there a particular go-to size/length that you found works best for your 220 types?

I use the larger one, but I think either one in the photo would be fine.
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Ridge Runner
Lol, thanks guys. I feel a little silly even asking about this. I learned the wrench & vise trick from you folks and I’ve been able to do a few of these already, but something’s off with the angle of my Klein wrench. Mine just doesn’t fit and bite squarely. It gets wedged against the frame before the jaws close, unlike the pictures you guys have posted of your tear-downs. I’m getting that “this is going to bend or round off” feeling when I do it. I might give the “auto wrench” a whirl. I have several adjustables already but not like that. So, clearly I need to get one!

Eel, as soon as I hit “post” I thought to myself, I guess an extension could be held in the vise too...doh! Don’t worry I’ll keep the impact wrench far away and the coffee can lid handy 😉

Thanks again guys!

— L.J.
Looking for a 10/15 B-Day Lantern
Don't reinvent the wheel, build a better mouse trap!
"Ain’t no need to watch where I’m goin’; just need to know where I’ve been" -Tow Mater

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Ridge Runner
Smudge wrote:

I use the larger one, but I think either one in the photo would be fine.


Thank you, much appreciated. 

— L.J.
Looking for a 10/15 B-Day Lantern
Don't reinvent the wheel, build a better mouse trap!
"Ain’t no need to watch where I’m goin’; just need to know where I’ve been" -Tow Mater

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ecblanks
I do gregs method.  With the correct monkey wrench it does not touch the round part of the valve block so bending it is not an issue.  I don't even insert a "dummy" cleaning level assembly .
Only difference is I approach from the side in towards where the cleaning level screws in, instead from the top (wrench is horizontal in the vice). 
this method also prevents bending the bung. Only drawback I have experienced is that you can apply so much torque rotationally that sometimes it loosens the valve in the fount instead, but no loss there.
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Ridge Runner
Thanks, Carlton. I’m going to pick up a different wrench since mine isn’t making it easy. I’ve got a few 220/228’s lined up for rebuilding and you guys have given me some good pointers.

You all have been very helpful 😎👍🏻

— L.J.
Looking for a 10/15 B-Day Lantern
Don't reinvent the wheel, build a better mouse trap!
"Ain’t no need to watch where I’m goin’; just need to know where I’ve been" -Tow Mater

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KaiserKrebs
I’m curious about how this will work out as well, I just found one of those Ford spanners, and a little six inch one made by Snail brand from Great Britain 🇬🇧 
I also thought it would work well on 220
disassembly.
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Dmacp
my first car was a '49 Ford Tudor. It had the original toolkit in it, the wrench had the "Ford" logo on it. there was also a spark plug wrench, same logo. Changing plugs on a 239 flathead was no big chore. The engine idled so smooth I occasionally hit the starter button because I thought it had died.
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Ridge Runner
Well, since I needed a different adjustable wrench for my 220/228 tear-downs, and I didn't have an Auto Wrench I decided to buy one. This is my new-to-me Vlchek brand 11" length Auto Wrench. This might be kinda boring for some of you guys, but I'm pretty stoked about it. I like old stuff and this one was in good condition. Figured I'd give a good old wrench a new purpose in life:
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The jaws are in great shape and close nice and square. There is only a little ding in the fixed jaw. I might file the little burr off but it's not really affecting anything so maybe I'll just leave well enough alone:
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Much nicer grip and fit than my Klein 12" adjustable:
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The wrench fits nicely through the port or starboard side of the frame without jamming up against the frame parts like my other adjustable wrench did. It's still easy to spin the worm gear while "chucked up" in the vise with lantern on top. This wrench really locks up tight and holds the lantern nice and steady for disassembly:
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It is really going to make my future tear-downs much easier. I'm glad I picked up the Vlchek Auto Wrench and would recommend it to anyone looking to give this style wrench a shot. After a quick clean up this is going to be added to my arsenal of "Lantern Tools".

Thanks folks for the earlier comments, and thanks for looking!

— L.J.
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