200A and 202 reproduction
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clc54
A friend gave me this nice 228E, which was in pretty good shape, but I wanted to give it the "ole clean & shine" and set it up on the shelf to admire. I took my time to make sure everything would be perfect, and then I pulled the biggest DDA (Double Dumb Ass) move I've pulled in a long time. I was using a citric acid soak on all the metal parts. Experience is a wonderful teacher, and I now know a citric acid soak to clean a black knob pump is just the wrong thing to do. I let it soak too long, and I no longer have a black knob pump. Over all the lantern turned out pretty good, but I will always remember my mistake every time I look at it.
Before and after pics:
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Clyde L. Cross
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Mister Wilson
Small tragedy, time heals.  I've decided I'm going to farm out all my polish work to you.  Every time I see one of your before and after I'm very impressed.
John
H.C. Lanterns dealer
Coleman 275 Appreciation Syndicate #2001 A Turd's Odyssey
Canadian Blues #028
Coleman Slant Saver #31
Looking for 6-56 and 6-58 Birthday lanterns.
There's been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about.
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clc54
Thanks John,
This lantern had been well taken care of, but I really do like to shine the brass, collar, and cage to a nice luster. I spend a lot of time with 0000 steel wool, and polish everything with either Blue Magic or Mothers mag & aluminum. Dawn soap only on the vent, and old fashion turtle wax for the font. I've had several hobbies over the years, but I really enjoy this one. And, I'm learning something new everyday! (sometimes the hard way)
Clyde L. Cross
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curlyjoe_99
Clyde,

even though the pump knob is aluminum, I believe that there are treatments to turn it black again.

if it were steel you could blue it until it was close to black, but there is an aluminum black chemical.
aluminum black.jpg 

the bottle runs about $8 and should be available at multiple places
Robert (AKA Curly)-- Heart-of-Texas! "Keep 'Em Working"  
MILSPEC_OPS & 275 Appreciation Syndicate Member #9999

In Search of (ISO): evidence of a 220/228 series lantern dated 2/63    

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Eel

Would an E have an aluminum knob?  My black knobs in the parts box are all magnetic.

I *think* the black knobs are "black nickel" plating.  I could be incentivized to find out.

EEL Eclectic Lanterns, div.  Doofenshmirtz-EEL Incorporated.

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BSAGuy
I am with Robert.  Birchwood Casey makes a decent cold bluing solution and also the one he depicted for aluminum.  The black knob on the pump should be easy to recreate.
- Courtenay
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clc54
Curly & Eel,
Thanks for the info and possible repair. I checked the knob on mine, and I think it is aluminum. The shaft is definitely steel as the magnet will stick to it solid, but when I move the magnet to the knob, there is much less pull. I think it it is still pulling on the pump shaft. I'll check for the aluminum black at our local hardware/sporting goods store and give it a whirl.
Thanks again!,
Clyde L. Cross
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clc54
Thanks Courtenay,
I was typing when you posted.
Clyde L. Cross
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nomis1
That is an impressive shine on the burner cage & rest. Actually on everything. Nice work.

Simon
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clc54
Thanks Simon,
It's one of the things I really enjoy in the hobby.
Clyde L. Cross
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Rubing
That came out really nice man!
ICCC # 1402
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1hpycmpr
Nice work, Shinemaster! I believe one would be able to see their reflection in the cage support. That’s a beauty, Clyde.
Mark
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302w
What citric acid product are you using? Would vinegar work as well?

How careful do you have to be to not strip the plating on the collar and frame?
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clc54
Tnx for the comments folks. This lantern was in pretty good shape to start with so I was lucky by the results, except for my goof up on the pump knob, but with some help from the experts here on the forum, I might be able to remedy the problem.
Clyde L. Cross
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clc54
302w wrote:
What citric acid product are you using? Would vinegar work as well?

How careful do you have to be to not strip the plating on the collar and frame?

Hey Jim,
I use Ball citric acid found in the canning department of wal-mart. I don't measure, just sift a little into a two gallon plastic bucket of hot water. I normally keep an eye on the parts in the soak. I'll pull them out, rinse, wipe dry with a rag, and see how they look. If needed, I'll put the parts back in for a little longer. I just made a mistake and let this one get away from me. As Forest Gump would say, "It happens" I'll learn from my mistake, and hopefully won't let it happen again. I use the citric acid or Evaporust on the metal parts, and a 50/50 mix of vinegar and water on the brass.
Clyde L. Cross
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Dmacp
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I *think* the black knobs are "black nickel" plating.  I could be incentivized to find out.


Don't know if I could pay you enough incentive, but I'd like to know a bit more about this "black Nickel".
Dan
ICCC member #604
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Eel
PM sent.  Thinking this works with steel and brass, doesn't work with aluminum, will know more later in the day.

EEL Eclectic Lanterns, div.  Doofenshmirtz-EEL Incorporated.

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fatherof31970
Beautiful work on another wonderful big hat!
"Sit tall in the saddle, Hold your head up high Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky And live like you ain't afraid to die And don't be scared, just enjoy your ride" From "The Ride" by the late Chris Ledoux. Ed, Moscow, Idaho 
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Gunhippie
The '55-'59 black pump knobs are brass. I don't know what the patina is, but I can ask a friend who applies patinas to fine art bronze and brass castings for a living.

Beautiful job there!

BTW: Caustic lye is a good way to bleach and etch a valve wheel....
It's priceless until someone puts a price on it.
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Timm--Middle of nowhere, near the end of the road, Oregon.
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Eel
Bright nickel does NOT plate to aluminum.  Black nickel would not plate to aluminum in the same process...  Brass, copper, steel: a better result.

EEL Eclectic Lanterns, div.  Doofenshmirtz-EEL Incorporated.

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