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vanshippilot

Hello all,

 

 A while back a friend of mine, a semi-retired sheriff's deputy, fraternal brother, and all around good g 20190304_161420 (3).jpg  uy saw some of the lanterns I keep on my desk at work and asked if I could help him get one of his late father-in-laws lanterns running again. He told me how they would use it fishing in South Carolina back in the 70s. I agreed and told him just to drop it off. After pulling it out of an old storage building on the old property it looked like this. 

 

 

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it was missing the collar and had a bail from some unknown source. 

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vanshippilot
Alex was kind enough to supply the missing collar and bail, thanks again for the help with the parts and ID. This is the first of these I've ever dealt with.  20190512_194443.jpg 
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The found was filthy, and the liquid I poured out of it was unlike any fuel I've ever seen before. it was a rich green color. The owner told me it's been in storage in that building for at least 30 years, so I reckon the brass F/A tube has oxidized in the white gas and the "greeness" must have come from that? regardless it was a wild color. 

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vanshippilot

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The fount looks like it should clean up at least to a useable condition. 

 

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After wirewheeling the combustion chamber, treating the vent mount to some 2000 degree VHT paint, and a quick scrub of the burner frame the parts are looking halfway decent. More pictures to come.

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mgmlvks
Looking much better!
Mike, ICCC member #1156, Slant Saver Group #011, 275 Appreciation Syndicate #0215
"In order for the light to shine so brightly, the darkness must be present"
Francis Bacon
(and - for those who have asked - avatar from postcard and says "Coming Home by Rail".  https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4595/27430282209_39a564be00_z.jpg
 
 
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Jayhawksr
The 242C is so easy to work on -- I really like 'em. 
Richard (KC native and KU Alumni living in Maryland)
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vanshippilot
I pulled the valve assy from the fount this weekend and found the whole thing totally corroded. Nothing surprising, just filthy. I managed to unscrew the Fuel air tube, and found it to be totally blocked. I could barely remove the stainless needle from it. I may need to buy a new F/A tube. Click image for larger version - Name: 242VALVE.jpg, Views: 177, Size: 180.20 KB
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Looking down on top of the e-block I saw some black particles. A bath in the carb cleaner bucket should sort this out. 

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vanshippilot

Since my last post I've:

1. cleaned out the F/A tube

2. filed & polished the hardware nuts

3.pressure tested the fount

 

My current problem is the Check Valve. It leaks. I used my check valve removal tool, but it was slightly oversized (it's never been too big on any C/V I've used it on before) and since it didn't seat totally, it backed out, shaving the face of the check valve down with it. I've cleaned the pump tube out with lye and boiling water AND I've left PB blaster in the pump tube for days on end hoping it would penetrate and help the valve to come out easier, no luck. Is there a different check valve tool I should have used?

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JimL
>>Is there a different check valve tool I should have used?

I don't own the tool myself, but only ever needed to use one once or twice.  Carb cleaner does it for me.  PB Blaster is awesome stuff, but that's not the right application for it.  You want to clean whatever is gumming up the ball, preventing it from moving freely.  I suggest you spray some carb cleaner in the tube, being careful to not get any on the paint, insert the pump and flush it through.  Next, remove the pump and put more carb cleaner in the tube, put the pump back in and push it down as slowly as possible so it just goes below the check valve and not up and out of the snorkel.  Next, put more carb cleaner down the tube and just let it sit overnight.  This way you'll have the whole check valve soaking in carb cleaner.  You can also flush it back and forth now by putting the fuel cap on and holding the fount in your hands.  The heat from your hands will build enough pressure to force the cleaner through the valve from the back side.  Then put the fount down (or under cool running water) and it will get sucked back in.  Lather, rinse, repeat.  🙂  

You need not worry about carb cleaner in the fount.  It'll mix with the fuel and burn off.  I don't know what carb cleaner you might have, assuming you have some, but I've found Gumout to be about as useless as tits on a bull.  It was great back in the day, but something's changed over the years.  I now use the Walmart brand and find it's superior.

-Jim

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trapper
I don't have a check valve took but have had a leaky check valve on a 242B a while back and someone suggested that I pump pressure in to the lantern remove the pump then put a little wd-40 in to the check valve and with a thin wire push on the ball inside the check valve a couple times. Just watch out for the blow back it will hit you in the face. This work for me. Hope this helps.
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Eel
If you still need to remove the CV (see a few posts above for methods to make it play nice without removal), you're pretty much stuck with an ez-out type of bit at this point.  If you need to purchase, Horrible Fright Tools has a fair set - and there is also THIS... (similar to a set I have: they are wonderful)
https://www.amazon.com/Damaged-Screw-Extractor-Remover-Drill/dp/B07FYF1JV8
This will destroy the CV.

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It's been a while since I've  had the time to post so here's the progress so far. I ordered the CV tool from Mike, and out went the old CV easy as you please. I replaced it with a new one/seal. I've cleaned the fount out and after a new generator It lights up. I'm very happy now that it's making light again. Next comes more polishing. Thanks for the advice so far from everyone!

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