200A and 202 reproduction
frames back
in stock.

mgmlvks
Doing some bartering - fixing up his favorite stove for some machine shop work.  1992 425F.  Cleaned crap from tip - seems to run fine now.  BUT - says it is an intermittent problem.  I'll restart a couple of times each day to see if I can duplicate.

AND - something heavy rattling around in fount!  says he has not lost any pocket knoves or screw drivers in there.  Have no idea what this is - does NOT attract a magnet!  Solder Maybe?

I'll ask if he bought this used.  The valve is TIGHT - and a black sealer.  Curious if this is correct!  9/16" open end wrench started to crush the brass.  After it airs out - will hit with some light propane and the wrench again

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mgmlvks
Putting new fuel in and moving ahead.  Black sealer look right?
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D421
I have one that I know is original. It has black sealer. Gasolina??? 
Dominic
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mgmlvks
Thanks - and it appears unmolested other than by me.  That black sealer is TOUGH - did not remove the valve.
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Chucker
You're probably right that it's solder. 

If the stove is acting up from time to time it could be the solder moving under the fuel tube and partially blocking it. 
Chuck
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hikerduane
Try some heat on the joint, works.  Even with a torch, the valve can still be tough, normal to mar the valve some.
Duane 
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Majicwrench
Why are you taking it apart?

Just don't.
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mgmlvks
Thanks everyone - I was concerned that something biodegradable like an old non-fuel resistant washer or other substance had got into the fount and interfered with the fuel pick-up.  As the lump appeared to be solder and nothing else appeared, and there is no other evidence of having been messed with - I am leaving it alone except for periodic testing.  

I did use the air hose outside last night to remove fuel - and had pieces  of "something" hit my hand as they exited the tank.  Will try to find them today - probably small solder bits as the tank is clean with only very fine rust specs in the fuel I drained out.

Will inform owner to make sure he tilts the fount away from the valve and shakes before hooking it up to the stove.

So - long story - result is - I did NOT take apart!

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Ridge Runner
Mike, have you tried to poke at the offending clunker with an awl or skinny screwdriver to see if it breaks up into smaller bits? I’m a bit surprised there would be any solder chunks in the fuel tank at all.

My reasoning is by the time this tank was manufactured I was under the impression that Coleman had long since stopped using soft solder to join the pieces of the tank together. By this point weren’t they using copper “brazing rings” during assembly then heating the tank as a whole to braze the pieces together?

I’ve also experienced the same problem trying to remove tank valves with a wrench. Now I invert the tank and put the valve in the jaws of my bench vise and unscrew the tank. Similar to removing a valve from a lantern fount.

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Sierra Roadrunner
Mike, I had the same problem on a 425E fount manufactured 9/77. Turns out the liner was breaking up inside the fount. The little glob in the bottom of your filler hole inside the fount looks a lot like mine did.  Could be part of your liner has broken loose and rattles around in the fount?

If it's dry it may break into smaller pieces if you poke it carefully with say a screwdriver. It will come out feeling like a semi hard plastic. Of course if it is the liner breaking a part rest of the liner will have to come out too or the fuel pick up problems will continue.

+1 on Ridge Runner using a vise to unscrew the valve from the fount. I've had to do that a couple of times too.

   Joe
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