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9lives1tail
Hi, I couldn't compress photos enough to meet the requirements here, so made a pdf of them instead (see attached). I got this stove for $8 at a thrift store. Seems really clean and well cared for but when I go to light it, I just get yellow flame coming out of the burner bowl & manifold, as if it's flooded. It seems like the generator isn't fitting properly (i.e. square) as you can see in the photos. It's not centered in the hole, and the clips are tight because they're not centered either. How do I straighten it out? And is that the problem?  I appreciate anyone's thoughts and advice.
Sina Pierret
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Majicwrench
are you starting it with lever up and leaving it there for a good minute?
Keith
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9lives1tail
Yes, I'm doing that. Even if I wasn't, the flame wouldn't be coming out of the manifold also, would it? Just the burner bowl, wouldn't it? I don't know why the generator doesn't fit square into the manifold hole in back. Could that be the problem--there not being a tight seal so fuel is getting out and causing the yellow flame? Did you see the photo?
Sina Pierret
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arizonacamper
From what I see in your picture the generator is not going in straight and is not seating Square in the manifold. do you have your tank  in right on the body of the stove itself?
I don't know if it's your picture or what but it doesn't look like the tank is seated correctly on the stove.
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9lives1tail
Yes, I think that is the problem. I just can't figure out how to straighten it out. Was hoping someone on here would know what to do. I'm not exactly mechanically inclined so the obvious steps do not always come to me. 
Sina Pierret
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hikerduane
Valve may have been screwed too far and needs to be turned more or backed up so it is at a right angle to the tank, so tip of genny slides in and is evenly spaced in the bunsen.  Check for obstructions in the bunsen like spider webs, etc.
Duane
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9lives1tail
The valve being too tight would affect the alignment of the generator in the bunsen? That's interesting since it appears to be linear and inherently straight to begin with. I will try that. 
Sina Pierret
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hikerduane
We can't tell from the pdf if the stove handle is in the way, tank tabs properly set in the case slots for the tank hanger tabs or if the valve is out of alignment.  Older stoves that had lots of use can get the genny curved a little from heat.  Genny tip tight?
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Rotaar
My 2 cents.  It’s hard to tell from the pictures but it almost looks to me like the valve coming out of the tank is bent clockwise and leaning to the right?  If you look straight in at the on/off knob does the valve lean to the right?  If so then you could try to bend it back left and see if that lines things up better.  Good luck!

Aaron
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Majicwrench
??? I don't see much of a problem with the way the generator fits in, it does not have to be perfectly straight or fit tight, and besides, that is not going to make it do yellow flames.

With tank off of stove, open valve 1/4 turn should see stream of fuel sputtering out (it now has air mixed with it) now  open valve fully should see straight small, steady stream of fuel

THings blocking air tubes make for yellow flames.
Keith
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arizonacamper
Here are some pictures of my tank that goes with my 413g stove. this is the way it should fit and as stated above check for obstructions in the manifold causing your yellow flame problems.
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Ridge Runner

>>It seems like the generator isn't fitting properly (i.e. square) as you can see in the photos. It's not centered in the hole, and the clips are tight because they're not centered either.

To me, something else looks off with the fuel valve in the left photo. With the tank installed on the stove, get down on the same level as the valve wheel. Take a close look at the brass valve behind it. Is the valve itself leaning toward the right—to the pump end of the fuel tank?

If the top of the fuel tank is bent at the valve bung that could cause the mis-alignment. The valve should be sticking straight up.

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9lives1tail
Hi All, I appreciate all your comments. I fell off the face of the earth for a while. I'm curious about Aaron and Ridge Runner's observation that the valve appears to be leaning toward the right, toward the pump end of the fuel tank. I would say this observation is accurate. The part of the brass that goes into the hole of the fuel tank is indeed slanted to the right. Is that not normal? 
Sina Pierret
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9lives1tail
To clarify, the fuel tank is designed that way--the red stem that the brass fits/screws into is what's slanted. I don't see how I can fix that.
Sina Pierret
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9lives1tail
Majicwrench, I got a steady stream of fuel when I take the tank off and open the valve. Nothing appears to be clogged.
Sina Pierret
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outlawmws
Three possibilities IMO (I think all mentioned):
  1. Loose tip leaking fuel in the manifold
  2. Air passages blocked in the manifold (cobbwebs, mud wasps, etc)
  3. worn out orifice in the tip
In my experience, Its always been a loose tip/orifice.
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Majicwrench
YOu should see what comes out of generator with the lever UP. with tank level, lever up, it should sputter air and fuel mixed. Then when you move lever DOWN you should get a steady stream. Is quite a noticeable difference.  If you get a steady stream with lever UP, that is not correct.
Keith
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zoomkat
Hard to tell anything from the picture. Take a picture with a cell phone and email it to yourself at the smallest size. This will fit the forum (or resize using Paint or similar). If the flames are kind of lazy, then the fuel mix is probably too rich, usually due to spider webs and bug nest in the mixing plenum blocking air flow. If the flames are tight and burning well, then the yellow may be due to sodium where somebody spilled something salty on the burner in the past.
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Ridge Runner
9lives1tail wrote:
Hi All, I appreciate all your comments. I fell off the face of the earth for a while. I'm curious about Aaron and Ridge Runner's observation that the valve appears to be leaning toward the right, toward the pump end of the fuel tank. I would say this observation is accurate. The part of the brass that goes into the hole of the fuel tank is indeed slanted to the right. Is that not normal? 
No, it's not normal for the valve to lean. It's tough to tell from the photos, but it is likely that the top of the tank is slightly bent where the valve bung (part with the female threads that the valve is screwed into) protrudes from the sheet-metal tank. It could have been that way from day one, or it was bent along the way sometime during it's life.

I wouldn't think that this is causing the yellow flames, but it would annoy me just because it's crooked. First, I would try to rule out what the others have mentioned regarding dirty burners, restricted bunsen/burner tubes, or loose generator tip.

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