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VWguy
I know this has been somewhat addressed previously. But I havent seen any recent solutions. So, as many have experianced the fuel on my 400a is not shutting off when the red lever is switched to the off position. 

I disassembled the stove and removed the valve assembly tube from the fount. I dont see any way to take it apart. I would buy a new valve assembly, but I dont know the new part number, if there is one. Any advice over than to scrap this stove 🙁

I have no idea what I am doing.


-Zach

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MotorcycleDan
The part number is 400A5571. The only thing I have done on these valves is replace the O rings. There is a nut that you unscrew where the red lever enters the valve. That is where the O rings are. Mine were leaking. Other than that, I have not had to tear apart a fuel valve on these stoves.

For future reference, to find part numbers, click on the Old Coleman parts banner. When it opens, to the top right of the page. You will see a tab called Coleman Resources. Click on that. You will then see on the right of the page "Parts Diagrams" Click on that and find the model number of the Coleman Product you are looking for. Open it and you will find the list of all the part numbers for that product. 
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VWguy
The part number is 400A5571. The only thing I have done on these valves is replace the O rings. There is a nut that you unscrew where the red lever enters the valve. That is where the O rings are. Mine were leaking. Other than that, I have not had to tear apart a fuel valve on these stoves.

For future reference, to find part numbers, click on the Old Coleman parts banner. When it opens, to the top right of the page. You will see a tab called Coleman Resources. Click on that. You will then see on the right of the page "Parts Diagrams" Click on that and find the model number of the Coleman Product you are looking for. Open it and you will find the list of all the part numbers for that product. 


Awesome thanks I'll check that resource. Also, when trying to remove the part with the red tab. I was unable to fully remove it once the nut was loosened. It unscrewed all the way but I could not pull the lever out of the brass block. 

I have no idea what I am doing.


-Zach

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VWguy
Also will this work? I was unable to find the part number you referenced after a short search.

https://www.coleman.com/valve-assembly/400-5551.html?cgid=coleman-replacementparts-stoves#start=12

I have no idea what I am doing.


-Zach

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MotorcycleDan
It should work. That is the valve for the 442 series. They are just updated 400 stoves. The fuel pickup is one of the "updates"! The 400 series used a brass pickup. 

The fuel lever should pull out. The O ring could be hung up and are causing it to not want to come out. If you still have the generator hooked up, remove it so the E Block can move a little bit more. 
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VWguy
It should work. That is the valve for the 442 series. They are just updated 400 stoves. The fuel pickup is one of the "updates"! The 400 series used a brass pickup. 

The fuel lever should pull out. The O ring could be hung up and are causing it to not want to come out. If you still have the generator hooked up, remove it so the E Block can move a little bit more. 


There is a graphite seal. No O rings. It looks like a pain to replace without damaging it. I think I may upgrade to the new part. 

I have no idea what I am doing.


-Zach

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MotorcycleDan
Ok, Coleman must have started with the O rings on the 440 Ultralight Gear stove. That replaced the 400 series stoves. That is the one that I have had to change the O rings on. My 400's have not had any problems, so I just assumed the valve was the same.

Sorry for the wrong info!
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Coldwaterpaddler
I have a 400A I've been using since new in 1987. I used it on a backpacking trip last month.

If the issue is that the fuel is not shutting off then the issue is the Schrader valve/valve core. All 400/400A/400B/442 stoves use the Schrader valve to shut off the fuel. This sits in the gray plastic F/A tube. Sometimes Mike (Old Coleman Parts) has the replacement fuel resistant Schrader valves/tire valves. First remove the valve from the fount, then remove the gray tube from the brass valve. Using a standard valve core removal tool you can remove the Schrader valve core. Install the new one, put it all back together and you're good to go.

Also note that the 400A still used graphite packing on the valve so it did not use O-rings to seal the valve stem. O-rings on the valve stem in the 400 series single-burner stoves began with the 400B (a.k.a Feather 400) stove.
Stovie-Steve
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HercL4D2
The valve you want is 400-5551.  400-5571 is obsolete. You need to remove the valve assembly from the tank and remove the F/A tube from the Valve. Measure the length of the F/A tube and call OCP if they have one that length. They normally come with the Schrader installed. If you go to Coleman .com with this P/N# 400-5551 they may also have the replacement part. There is another thread going on that is as recent as this one you should review.
https://www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/peak-1-400499-floods-10189884?pid=1309067491
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zoomkat
Do you have a picture of the fuel pickup tube? If it is the plastic rectangular plastic type, I would think you could carefully unscrew it from the valve body so you can unscrew the Schrader valve core and replace it.
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Coldwaterpaddler
Here are some photos of the 400A gray plastic F/A tube and the valve core at my blog:
https://sklcolorado.wordpress.com/2013/07/22/coleman-400a-stove-repair/

Fixing the fuel shut-off issue with my 400A is what got me into fixing old camp stoves. You can buy a whole valve assembly or even the F/A tube, but the only part you need to fix the issue is the valve core.
Stovie-Steve
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