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Chucker
That is pulsing and a "slurp" although I believe it actually sends some fuel down into the fount keeping it pressurized whether you like it or not.

Is the gen tip tightened snug? Is the gen nut tightened enough? Either can make it smell more and a loose tip can also make it burn rich. Could also be an enlarged tip orifice.

 
Chuck
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Chucker wrote:
That is pulsing and a "slurp" although I believe it actually sends some fuel down into the fount keeping it pressurized whether you like it or not.

Is the gen tip tightened snug? Is the gen nut tightened enough? Either can make it smell more and a loose tip can also make it burn rich. Could also be an enlarged tip orifice.

 


Everything is tight.

I was wondering if it could have an enlarged orifice. I'm going to have to look at the chart to see if anything is close. Is there anything I could try to replace the triangle tip with.
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Chucker
The 236 gen orifice is .0095. My chart on gen's doesn't show the thread pitch (some charts do) but, the 290 and 295 gen's have a .0090 dia. orifice so close enough if it has the same threads.

The 151 lamp and 635b have the same gen orifice dia. as the 236 as well.
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Chucker wrote:
The 236 gen orifice is .0095. My chart on gen's doesn't show the thread pitch (some charts do) but, the 290 and 295 gen's have a .0090 dia. orifice so close enough if it has the same threads.

The 151 lamp and 635b have the same gen orifice dia. as the 236 as well.



Here's a chart for ya giving the thread sizes. I just happen to have a 290a. Going to try that.

http://light.papo-art.com/tech-n-info/Coleman_technical/ColemanGenerators/Generator%20Gas%20Tip%20Sizes%20Feb%2020%202009.htm
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Feb 20 2009                 
 
     
               ****************PLEASE READ******************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            This List Is For information purposes only, What you choose to do with the information contained therein is done so at your own risk.                                                                                                                 Attention: Pressure appliances (especially gasoline ones) are but one OH ****!! away from severe,injury,property loss or even death resulting from improper use or handleing. The Dimentions given herein are taken with examples on hand and I do not guarnetee the accuracy of measurements below 0.001". Size or Orafice diameter is not the ONLY thing affecting the flow rate of a Gas Tip. I did my best in organizing the list from smallest to largest flow rate in each section. 
      
   
   
4/48 Thread Gas Tips (Standard Coleman Lantern Gas Tip) 
Coleman 
Part NumberFuelAppliance Model NumberGas Tip Stamp Orafice Diam 
252Dual FuelMil Spec 252-aNone0.0045" 
G2C Fuel22240.005"  
G2AC Fuel222-a-b40.005"  
5417-299Propane5417P0.005" 
P3Propane5417P0.005" 
G2AC Fuel222-a-bT0.0055"   
222A-2991C Fuel222-a-b 3022T0.0055"    
5104-299Butane5104 5121F0.0055" 
5120-5891Butane5120F  0.0055" 
5105-505Butane5101T1   0.00575" 
226-2991Dual Fuel229 226 266-700None0.006"    
201-5891Kerosene201TD0.006" 
214-5891Kerosene214TD0.006"    
249-299 CanKerosene249-d-e+0.006" 
K3Kerosene33930.006" 
TK66Kerosene241-a-b-g-k 242k 245 24730.006" 
5105-505Butane510130.006" 
249-299 Steel U.SKerosene249-d-e+0.006" 
249-299 U.SKerosene249-d-e+0.0065" 
249-2991 U.SKerosene249-d-e+0.007" 
T66C Fuel200-a 202 234 242-a-b-c-e 243-a60.007" 
T66DLC Fuel200-a 202 234 242-a-b-c-e 243-a60.007" 
200A-5891C Fuel200-a 202 234 242-a-b-c-e 243-a60.007" 
231-5891Kerosene23160.007" 
G3AC Fuel321C 335P60.007" 
G4C Fuel32560.007" 
G7C Fuel325A60.007"  
325-2991C Fuel32560.007" 
P5Propane541460.007" 
335B-2991C Fuel331 335 321-a-b-c60.007"  
288-5891C Fuel200B 286-a 288P0.007" 
288-5891C Fuel200B 286-a 288U? 
G3C Fuel331 335 321-a-bE0.0075"  
G3AC Fuel321C 335PE0.0075" 
K6Kerosene639-a-bE0.0075" 
T44GSC FuelSee T44-G-DLV0.0075" 
285-5891Dual Fuel282 285P0.0075" 
T88C FuelL220 L228, lamps 117 118 119 (slant generator)Q0.008" 
Q77C Fuel220 228 lamps 117 118 119 (slant generator)Q0.008" 
Q99C FuelQuicklite CQ lamps L-Q 327 427Q0.008" 
R55Kero-C fuelAll Q77 Q99 T88 aplications 427K Lamps 102K 143A 141 141A 128C 329BC 156 R157 158 159 159X 168K 169K Q0.008" 
604-299C FuelIrons 3,4-a,8-a,10,12,603,609-aQ0.008" 
604-2991C FuelIrons 3,4-a,8-a,10,12,603,609-aQ0.008" 
G3C Fuel331 335 321-a-bC0.008"  
K6Kerosene639-a-bC0.008" 
T44 CanadaC Fuel220 228, lamps 118-158C0.008" 
G8C Fuel519 HeaterC0.008" 
206A-5891Kerosene206V0.008" 
237A-299KeroseneU.S built 237BV0.008" 
T44DLC fuel275 220   228, lamps 118-158V0.008" 
T44KKerosene235 lamps129-a-g 138a-b 150bk-gk-ik-rk V0.008" 
T44GKero-C fuel220BX, lamps 117A 118A 119A 132-a 133 134a-g-p   139 150B-g-i-rV0.008" 
T44C Fuel275 220 228, lamps 118-158V0.008" 
220E-5891C Fuel275-a 220 228 118-158 lampsV0.008"    
Q99 (Newer Production)C FuelQuicklite CQ lamps L-Q 327 427V0.008" 
155 B292 (R55)Kero-C fuelSee R55V0.008" 
P9Propane5419I  0.0085"  
P10Propane5419AI  0.0085"  
5107-5891Propane5107-aI  0.0085" 
237-299Kerosene237-a U.S built 237BI  0.0085" 
237-2991Kerosene237-a U.S built 237BI  0.0085" 
5122-5891Propane5122I  0.0085" 
603-299C FuelIrons 3,4,8-a,10,12I  0.0085" 
604-299C FuelIrons 3,4-a,8-a,10,12,603,609-aI  0.0085" 
604-2991C FuelIrons 3,4-a,8-a,10,12,603,609-aI  0.0085" 
G5C Fuel625R0.009" 
G6C Fuel635 621-a-bR0.009" 
G6AC Fuel621DR0.009" 
G9C Fuel625AR0.009" 
295-5891Dual Fuel295V0.009" 
290-5891C Fuel290 290AV0.009" 
290-589CC Fuel290 290ANone0.009" 
502-5891C Fuel502 Sportster StoveF0.009" 
550-2891C Fuel550-a StoveV? 
550-2891C Fuel550b StoveE? 
550-2901Kero550-a StoveE0.009" 
550-2901Kero550b StoveV? 
T51 (151-299)C Fuellamps 151-bΔ (triangle)0.0095" 
236-299C Fuel236 236A (Primus 1060)Δ (triangle)0.0095" 
5114-5891Propane5114 5114A 5114ATS0.010" 
5114B-5891Propane5114B   5179-700TS0.010" 
5414-299 5414?? 
325A-2991C Fuel325A?? 
639A-2992Kero639-a-b?? 
625A-2991C Fuel625-a?? 
635-2991C Fuel635 621-a-b-c-d?? 
           Akron Lantern Generators   
Part NumberFuelAppliance Model NumberGas Tip Stamp Orafice Diam 
       
           American Gas Machine Generators    
Part NumberFuelAppliance Model NumberGas Tip Stamp Orafice Diam 
Ready LiteC fuel?None0.008"  
      
         Justrite  
Part NumberFuelLantern ModelGas Tip Stamp Orafice Diam 
?C fuel25 30None0.008  
      
8/32 Thread Gas Tips (New Larger Coleman Lantern Gas Tip Thread)  
Coleman 
Part NumberFuelAppliance Model NumberGas Tip Stamp Orafice Diam 
214A-5891Kerosene2140.006"    
214B-5891Kerosene214T0.006"    
325-2991C Fuel325None0.0065" 
335B-2991C Fuel331 335 321-a-b-c60.007"  
288-5891C Fuel200B 286-a 288P0.007" 
285-5891Dual Fuel282 285P0.008" 
285A-5891C Fuel,Unleaded Gasoline, Gasahol (E10) 285AP0.008" 
639B-2992Kero639-a-bNone0.009" 
295-5891Dual Fuel295None0.009" 
2000-589RDual Fuel2000-700 2000-750-a (Northstar)V0.009" 
635-5891C Fuel635BR0.0095" 
       
8/56 Thread Gas Tips  
           Akron Lantern Generators   
Part NumberFuelAppliance Model NumberGas Tip Stamp Orafice Diam 
S ShapedC fuel?None0.0075"  
       
10/36 Thread Gas Tips  
Coleman 
Part NumberFuelAppliance Model NumberGas Tip Stamp Orafice Diam 
611-299Kerosene611 IronEB0.007" 
520-299C fuel-Gasoline520 Stove+0.010" 
       
1/4" 40 TPI   Gas Tips   (500 Coleman Stove Pattern)  
Coleman 
Part NumberFuelAppliance Model NumberGas Tip Stamp Orafice Diam 
615B-299Kerosene605a 615a IronsNone0.006"  
238B-299Kerosene238 238B 238BGNone0.0085" 
500-299 CanadaC fuel500 Speedster 500A-b Sportmaster StoveBX0.013"  
500-2891 U.SC fuel500 Speedster 500A-b Sportmaster StoveBX0.013" 
522-2994C fuel-Gasoline522 Stove ?EK0.015"  
       
Conventional Stove Gas Tips  
Coleman 
Part NumberFuelAppliance Model NumberGas Tip Stamp Orafice Diam 
412-262C fuel2B-g-h 4F-h-k-m 6F-j-h 412B 415B 416C 417B 431AK0.017" 
Hot Plates 318A-b-bx-c 370A-b 382A-b-c 384 385 386-a 391 
412B-2621C fuel4M 431-aNone0.017" 
412-5621C fuel425 b-c-d-e-fNone0.018" 
414K-262C fuel414 432 433 444 446None0.018" 
414L-262C fuel414 444 446 432 432A 433ANone0.018" 
424-5621Dual Fuel424 424ANone0.018" 
435-262C fuel5BNone0.018" 
413a-5621C fuel413E-f-g-h 426B-c-d 442-a 443None0.020"  
       
Non Removable Gas Tips  
           Akron Lantern Generators   
Part NumberFuelAppliance Model NumberGas Tip Stamp Orafice Diam 
Insta GloC fuel?None0.0075"    
 
 
   
  NOTES:  
     
     
     
Please feel free to e-mail me and help complete this list or to bring to my attention any errors 
  
                                                          matthewq4b@hotmail.com 
 All Input is appreciated 
   
             A special thanks to Neil McRae & Mike Heymann. With out their help I would have never been able to do this. 
             To Neil for technical assistance and information     And Mike for being patient enough to school me on excel. 
             And to many others that have taken the time to make contributions to the list.  
 
 Copyrighted 2009 Matthew Reid 
             For personal use only no changes or modifications are allowed with out the consent of the Author.  
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Chucker
There you go!
Chuck
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Chucker wrote:
There you go!


Ya. I just typed all that up real quick off the top of my head,,,lol.

Man. What would we do with out those that came before us. I'm so appreciative of all the efforts people put out.
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Chucker
Pretty sure Matthew, who published that chart (with Neil McRae), is still a participating member here too. 
Chuck
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Chucker wrote:
Pretty sure Matthew, who published that chart (with Neil McRae), is still a participating member here too. 


I made sure to copy it all the way to include their names and credits.
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The 290 tip did not help.

But I do have SUCCESS!!

I went all over town today and could not find bronze wool to save my life. Then I called an old tv repairman I know and asked him if he had and de soldering wick. He gave me about 2' for free.

I wrapped it kinda into the spring a bit, went down to the hump and came back up. I needed that much to make it snug in the gen tube. Not sure if it's right but that's how I done it.

It is now running great. About 98%-99% flicker free. I could live with it. But I might try wrapping the other side of the hump to see what happens.

I never messed with the bronze wool. But from what I've read on how to do it this de soldering wick seems a lot easier. Nothing to pull apart, and nothing to clog your tip.

So I'm happy, for now.

This isn't the one I did. Just a quick mock up for an example.

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I'm not 100% sure I used the right stuff. It has the word rosin on it. Does then mean it's like rosin core solder. I hope it doesn't mess anything up. But I've ran it for a hour and it seems fine.

Is this the right stuff @Gunhippie

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mnhogrider
 It’s fireballing after it’s warmed up and running, right? Did you replace the complete generator? I’m wondering if you have a hairline crack up around where the gas tip screws in and it opens up when it gets hot enough. The gas tip is screwed in tight? You’ll be able to wash the soot off the vent. Might look like hell, but it’ll clean up good.
Your video looks like a normal start up with a cold lantern. I always take the bail, vent and globe off and pre heat. It keeps the lantern a lot cleaner. Use a propane torch and pre heat the burner assembly and mixing chamber too then the generator. Leave the cleaning lever down and don’t mess with it. Meter the fuel with the valve. Once you hear it gurgle, close the valve and pre heat. When you get light, just crack the fuel knob open. Put the globe, vent and bail on then slowly open the valve all the way. Spin the cleaning lever a few times. Pump the fount up 25-35 times when you start up.
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mnhogrider wrote:
 It’s fireballing after it’s warmed up and running, right?


Wrong. Runs good after it warms up, other than the pulsing. But that's mostly fixed now.

Read my last post just above yours.

I think it's still running too rich though. Is there such a thing with these. It makes my garage stink. In fact, as I'm sitting here in my living room I can get a whiff of that smell coming in around the poorly sealed back door. And it's been shut off all night.

You guys might laugh at me. But I'm running the first  "NEW"  fuel that I've bought. Everything else has been something that came with a lantern. Could it be this new fuel is stinkier,,,lol.

Could I put something in the fuel. I thought I read that it was recommended to put something in the fuel. Denatured alcohol maybe. Sea foam? Can't remember,,,lol.


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Judamonster
I have a soft spot for 236's-these are definately my favorite lanterns. I love them but they almost need the bronze wool. you can find it by the steel wool in most hardware stores. Is slows the fuel just enough so it vaporizes properly. FYI-OCP sells a reproduction generator that works well, but definately needs the bronze wool. 
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Chucker

Yes soldering wick is a good fix as well. Excellent you got it running well!


Bronze wool is found at most hardware stores in the paint section in this town. Maybe even near the bags of steel wool? 

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Chucker wrote:

Yes soldering wick is a good fix as well. Excellent you got it running well!


Bronze wool is found at most hardware stores in the paint section in this town. Maybe even near the bags of steel wool? 



Thanks Chuck..I went to Ace hardware, True Value hardware, and Fastenal. No one had bronze wool. That's when I called my fried. I think it turned out for the best,,,lol.
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I couldn’t find bronze wool locally and ordered mine from Amazon. 
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Congrats!

Don't worry about the rosin flux on the solder wick. I used to try to remove it with brake cleaner, acetone, etc, but got lazy and quit doing it. Works just as well without trying to remove the flux. I suspect all the flux dissolves in the first minute or so of running.
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Mike has the tube and spring.
http://www.oldcolemanparts.com/product.php?productid=2616&cat=&page=2
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I bought one from him. It did not fix my problem. Only wrapping the spring with de soldering wick fixed it.

Here's there one from Mike on the bottom.
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Oh, guess I missed that.
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rob_pontius
Have you looked to see what other generators you have laying around that might use the same tip? You may have an enlarged orifice, allowing too much fuel to be released and building up in the manifold. If you have something with the same orifice size, try swapping it and see what happens.
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