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maddawg308
Have a 220J on the bench right now I was going to sell off on CL, was testing it out today and found the tip cleaner knob won't shut the fuel off, like it should.  It will restrict it maybe a little bit, but fuel is still spurting out the valve assembly.  The eccentric block is moving up and down like it should, and the generator is installed correctly.  I took off the valve assembly off and put another one on, and it does the same thing, so apparently I have TWO 220J valve assemblies with tip cleaner knobs that won't shut down the fuel! 

Am I missing something obvious?  Perhaps I've been doing lanterns too much recently, and I'm losing my mind on a 220J.  Maybe I need a vacation.
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zoomkat
"was testing it out today and found the tip cleaner knob won't shut the fuel off, like it should."

What makes you think that it should shut off all the fuel?
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scott_denbow
Following, as my J starting doing this on our most recent camping trip.  I'd close it up, the mantles would get very VERY low, but never go out.  Interested to see the responses.
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outlawmws
The tip cleaner is NOT a shutoff valve; it's a tip cleaner.  it's a loose fit.  With yours, maybe slightly looser, but the main valve is for shutoff.
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scott_denbow
outlawmws wrote:
The tip cleaner is NOT a shutoff valve; it's a tip cleaner.  it's a loose fit.  With yours, maybe slightly looser, but the main valve is for shutoff.


how crazy...i misread...i didn't see he was trying to turn it off with the tip cleaner.  mine wouldn't stop the fuel after turning the shut-off knob the whole way.  My apologies!
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maddawg308
All my Es and Fs the tip cleaner shuts off the fuel when the pricker knob is in the up position.  Is this just something the newer Hs, Js, and Ks have in common, as far as barely affecting the fuel flow?  Characteristic of the newer-style valve assembly?
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zoomkat
"Characteristic of the newer-style valve assembly?"

Could be a change in a manufacturing process, a slight difference in the effective pricker rod length, or a slight buildup of crud on the inside of the orifice over a period of use. The prickers are smaller than the generator orifice, and function to ensure the orifice is clear for at least the size of the pricker. Probably the important thing would be some dimming when the cleaning rod is rotated. This would most likely show that the pricker is moving into the orifice to clean it.
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Tigerfans2
Swap the generator?
It's the pricker/generator tip fit that determines how much if any the lantern dims when you turn the tip cleaner. Theoretically and new gen and new pricker with new tolerances will starve the fuel . Theoretically. 
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outlawmws
While the pricker may cut sufficient fuel to generally put the mantle out (that is fairly typical) I doubt it ever seals fuel tight.  Certainly mine don't.  I'd expect enough seepage to potentially cause a problem with a puddle of fuel....
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