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bluepen61
Has anyone created  listing of the manufacturing dates for the 220/228 H lanterns?
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Phredd
I think it was 75 - 79.  Someone should have a list somewhere....
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Colemannut
Phredd wrote:
I knew there was a list...

http://www.oldtowncoleman.com/date.htm

This list is outdated and not correct. Many other dates added since 2010. 
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Phredd
There is another list at ICCF
http://intlccc.net/information/modelyear-reference/by-model/

ICCF lists the 220H as 1973 - 1975
Oldtowncoleman lists it as 1974
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coleman54
I think John was referring to months and years produced. (stamped)  
Both of those are incorrect : Here are two from 6/72  A32F82C9-C048-4C95-8AA4-042D09A42482.jpeg  83B9D759-E48F-4BF8-9350-F20685A5A8EA.jpeg  31012D9A-B88F-4659-983B-B9AE86A13DEE.jpeg 
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mikew
Seems I remember something about the 220F was replaced by the 220H in mid 1973.  I know that 9/73 is a fairly common 220H date.  The 220J came sometime in 1975.  I don't know the months of transition though.  
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ecblanks
I'd go with 72-75, though there was a lot of overlap with the F in 72 and 73. 72 will be mostly F and 73 mostly H.
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bluepen61
Er, I had a handle on the range, but was looking for a listing of known dates.
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Gand28
@StanDahl can probably share what his records show. There is no other official database of month/year date stamps. 
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bluepen61
Thanks Greg!
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StanDahl
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The dates on the ICCC page are catalog dates. As it says there, the model year begins around 4-6 months ahead of the calendar year and typically ends 5-6 months before the end of the calendar year. The 220/228H's are in the Coleman catalogs from 1973-75, and my personal notes show these models being dated from May of 1973 to May (and at least one in August) of 1975. 

Personally, I would consider the 6/72 220H's above to be more like prototypes, since there were still a number of runs of 220F's during and after that date. These may have come off of the line (or possibly from a factory shop, which I think is more likely, but what do I know?) and sat for a while before being put on the market (if they were - they could also have gone to employees at some point, I don't know the history of these items). 
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Colemannut
StanDahl wrote:


Personally, I would consider the 6/72 220H's above to be more like prototypes, since there were still a number of runs of 220F's during and after that date. These may have come off of the line (or possibly from a factory shop, which I think is more likely, but what do I know?) and sat for a while before being put on the market (if they were - they could also have gone to employees at some point, I don't know the history of these items). 


The boxes found proves that these 6/72 220H’s were production lanterns! Found with both 220/228F and 220/228H paperwork. 1514B4B3-0929-4008-8B2B-98807C5B9E66.jpeg 
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bluepen61
Thank you fro the info and pictures. Do you have a short list of production dates for the 220H?
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StanDahl
The box means that they were put into a box at some point, and probably sold, but I don't know that it proves anything beyond that. They could be production lanterns, but the 220F is also noted with a 6/72 date. Why return to the 220F for at least two more runs over the next 6 months if they had begun producing 220H's?

They could have grabbed some 6/72 220F founts off the line and toyed around with new fittings, and set them aside, then later after the 220H was in production, put them in boxes and sold them.  

220H/228H dates that I've noted: May, Aug, Sept, Dec. of 1973; Feb, Aug, Jun, Aug, Nov. of 1974; Feb, Apr, Jun of 1975, and Frank B. says he has a 220H dated Aug. 1975 that was found in a 220J box.
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StanDahl
What’s the date on the 220H instruction sheet?
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bluepen61
I think I have an "H" made with J parts, meaning the burner and/or retainer plate are "J" version. I am not sure if I still have that one. I'll have to look and take pictures if I do.
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Colemannut
StanDahl wrote:
What’s the date on the 220H instruction sheet?

The instructions for the 220H-700 is dated 6/72. These lanterns obviously weren’t just setting on a shelf and then sent out later because the boxes were not alike the regular 220H-195 lanterns. The third picture is from the 220H-700 and the forth is from a 3/73 220H-195 lantern With 3/73 date instructions. As you can see the founts are not the same as the regular 220F’s either. The pump tubes on the 220H-700’s are angled more towards the valve knob then the regular 220F’s  796C6D3B-3D4E-4550-BC46-25A4D2CFDE56.jpeg 079CED36-E038-4FF9-BC25-F8E812DC9736.jpeg 727832E1-8383-43E5-B163-2087AA9FA0C3.jpeg0DE3F911-CF3F-4355-A57A-AA4D8776CDE8.jpeg
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StanDahl
Interesting...I wonder if they intended to put them into production, but hit a snag and decided to keep going on the 220F for another 6 months or so until they straightened it out. Have you done (or seen) a thread where these are taken apart and compared to later 220H's and the late 220F's?
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Colemannut
StanDahl, I have not but can. I have two in my collection. One in great condition with box and all paperwork and other is in user condition. Only 8 known as of now IIRR.
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coleman54
StanDahl wrote:
The box means that they were put into a box at some point, and probably sold, but I don't know that it proves anything beyond that. They could be production lanterns, but the 220F is also noted with a 6/72 date. Why return to the 220F for at least two more runs over the next 6 months if they had begun producing 220H's?

They could have grabbed some 6/72 220F founts off the line and toyed around with new fittings, and set them aside, then later after the 220H was in production, put them in boxes and sold them.  

220H/228H dates that I've noted: May, Aug, Sept, Dec. of 1973; Feb, Aug, Jun, Aug, Nov. of 1974; Feb, Apr, Jun of 1975, and Frank B. says he has a 220H dated Aug. 1975 that was found in a 220J box.

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It does appear the box chosen was of different color and stamped 220H/700 for some reason. When packed with special printed instructions and shipped to several other states and sold. The founts they grabbed off the line were different as the fittings were from the Standard Model 220F that continued to be produced in 6/72 and the Gold Bond 228F Too by the way. 
The 6/72 date should be noted.
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StanDahl
coleman54 wrote:
The 6/72 date should be noted. 
Yes, but with an asterisk, as this was obviously a special run, not full production.

I noted 8 F lanterns (seven 220F's and one 228F) dated 6/72 for my fuel cap graph, and that data was collected, mostly on ebay, over a period of only a few weeks. If there have only been 8-10 of these 220H's with this date noted by collectors over a period of years, it wasn't a very large run.

Strangely, despite real-life 220H lanterns showing up dated beginning in May of 1973, the 220H wasn't even in the 1973 catalog, which was prepared for late summer/fall of 1973, so it's possible that they weren't sure at the time the catalog was put together if the H would be ready for the fall line. Either that, or they really didn't care all that much about what was in the catalog, they were just selling lanterns, not documenting production.
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coleman54
Yes I agree this was probably a special run, when I showed one here in 2014 it was thought to be a fluke made up by an employee for himself. They are easily overlooked without a trained eye as being another common 220F. Just a few months after showing mine to Kameron he found his, we both have two. 
Since you are tracking this 220H information I would like to suggest  taking a look at the new collar with printed instructions 1/73 , and 3/73 stamped date, I have seen evidence of this and believe I also had one in the past.
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StanDahl
Looking more closely at my spreadsheet, I have seen a 1/73 220H "with an H frame bottom", whatever that means. It was probably an very early observation, before I really knew what I was looking at. It might mean a late 220F frame. I wasn't keeping photos back then either.
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