200A and 202 reproduction
frames back
in stock.

digitalbill
got a 220 b @a garage sale (among many many other things) and I just rediscovered it.
questions:
-year?  can't find anything on the bottom
-lack of cleanout lever?  is this a thing? or is it a franken valve
-how does one get the red paint off of the vent (and who paints their lantern?!)
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SteveRetherford
your missing the tip cleaner assembly here , not a franken . the & can help date is as an earlier B versus an AND .
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Tgarner01
Looks like an early one based on the air tube and vent. Appears to be correct valve. I use carb cleaner or acetone to get paint off the vent. 0000 steel wool helps also
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outlawmws
Simple Green is also good for soaking rattle can paint off.  (I use it to resurrect dead House paint brushes)
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Hot Diggity
+1 on acetone.  Only thing I've found that will remove all paint and varnish.  

Works on ants too but I have to use it in moderation or the yard starts looking like an oil field in Kuwait in 1991.  Kinda freaked the neighbors out, but I have no ants in my yard now.
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Gunhippie
1930-'late '34 based on the use of the ampersand and the folded-seam collar. A picture of the holes where the bail mounts to the frame would help--round or keyholes?

Boiling the vent in an SS pot with dishwasher detergent at about 1 tablespoon/quart of water will get that paint right off.

I might just have a tip cleaner assembly for a B around here....

Yep--found it! I have the eccentric assembly in very nice shape and the little stub of the bottom of the air tube which it looks like you're also missing.

PM me if interested.
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Tgarner01
I just noticed the burner... It almost looks like a quicklite... Did the early Bs run the same burner assembly?
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Dmacp
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I just noticed the burner... It almost looks like a quicklite... Did the early Bs run the same burner assembly?


No, that is the right frame. A quicklite frame is almost flat. Must've had cotter pins holding the bail on, most (but not all) the keyhole ones are a permanent installation but some can be removed after the fount is off. then the key hole lines up with the bail end which is swaged.
Mine is similar to yours and it has cotter pins.
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Tgarner01
Dmacp wrote:


No, that is the right frame. A quicklite frame is almost flat. Must've had cotter pins holding the bail on, most (but not all) the keyhole ones are a permanent installation but some can be removed after the fount is off. then the key hole lines up with the bail end which is swaged.
Mine is similar to yours and it has cotter pins.

I was referring to the burner assembly. Looks quicklite to me. The frame looks to be early B for sure.
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digitalbill
here are pics of the frame bail holes and bail tips 0719201614_copy_800x600.jpg  0719201614_copy_800x600.jpg  0719201613_copy_800x600_1.jpg 
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Tgarner01
digitalbill wrote:
here are pics of the frame bail holes and bail tips 0719201614_copy_800x600.jpg  0719201614_copy_800x600.jpg  0719201613_copy_800x600_1.jpg 


Definitely looks correct for early B. I would like to see a closer picture of your burner assembly. Still not sure it is the correct one from the picture I see.
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digitalbill
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Tgarner01
Thank you for those pictures. I've never personally seen one of these on a B model. But I've only got one early B. I'm going to do some studying, hopefully someone who knows will be along shortly.
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coleman54

The early 220B/228B utilized the same burner mixing chamber as Quick-Lite in the same time frame and continued in the mid thirties. 

This mixing chamber you have is pre 1924 not original to this lantern, Shown below is from the first 220B dated 0/5 May 1930.
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Tgarner01
Thank you for confirming Larry and for the example.
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Gunhippie
June '30 228B:

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Same MC Larry shows.


Your 220B is certainly an early one. Pre-34 at least.

You will want to drill the ends of your bail for cotter pins as the "wings" of the keys are worn away. 1/16" bit will do the job.

Oh, yeah--I have the correct MC for your lantern. Let me know if you want it.
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Dmacp
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Shown below is from the first 220B dated 0/5 May 1930


Larry when did the cotter pinned bail appear? I have an early B (date code 3-4) and it does not have the keyholed frame. Also did all 220B's have bails that would clear a brimmed vent as used on later 427's?

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I was referring to the burner assembly. Looks quicklite to me. The frame looks to be early B for sure.

Yes Toby you were. I'm sorry. I wasn't reading very carefully. My burner has your air tube with the British patents but has the mixing chamber Larry shows.
I found the fact that your vent rod was unscrewed a turn or two very interesting. I know of several early 327's that also had that done to them.
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coleman54

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Larry when did the cotter pinned bail appear? I have an early B (date code 3-4) and it does not have the keyholed frame. Also did all 220B's have bails that would clear a brimmed vent as used on later 427's?
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Hi Dan,  The keyhole frame itself continued longer than the bail did, 1931 is when the cotter key bail transitioning began  (possibility of some in late 1930) but the key frames continued for a while with cotter key bail. 

The brim vent began on 220B by fall 1935. 

Larry

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Dmacp
thanks!
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