200A and 202 reproduction
frames back
in stock.

nikdanger
9/13
Good morning Colemanland!
We just had our first cold front come in and it's a welcome respite from stinkin high dewpoints with temps in the low 80's here in PA Dutch country.Thank you Jesus!
Here's a newb question ,well, maybe two -
1) Besides our host ,'ole coleman parts, are there other sources of new / barely used parts for all things Coleman?
I know  Ebay sellers have parts, but Ebay is not my favorite place to buy stuff. 
2)  Real tech question:  Could one of the Coleman afficionados please, enlighten me why for the longest time coleman lamps had only one mantle, then came two mantle units?
Did the one mantle lanterns operate under more pressure,therefore give more light?
And why would I want a one mantle lantern versus having a two mantle one?

Nik
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Hot Diggity
Hi Nik,

Some of the greatest sources of parts are your fellow members here on CCF.  Keep reading, check the classifieds often.

To answer question 2 I referred to The Book, https://www.oldcolemanparts.com/product.php?productid=3389&cat=26&page=1

I didn't remember Coleman producing single mantle lamps or lanterns early on, and Going back to 1905, that seems to be the case.  Two mantles was the standard burner since 1905 or so when the burner configuration we recognize was introduced.  Single mantle lamps are scarce, single mantle lanterns just seem to fit a design niche.  Limitations in burner design due to size, burner efficiency, and marketing.  If a single large mantle on a kerosene burner will make 500CP with acceptable fuel consumption, why use two?  Or imagine if you had to tie two tiny little mantles on a 242 size lantern with cold fingers, in a dark ice shanty?  How popular would that design be?  And who wants a bright single mantle lantern if it sounds like a jet engine?  Then there are guys who are just cheap, and don't want to use two mantles when one will do.  Single mantle lanterns are just as bright as two mantle lanterns, sometimes brighter.  I like both, and Coleman gave us the option.  Makes things more fun, eh?

Brightness of a single or double is more a function of design than of pressure.  You can reach an optimal air-fuel mixture at a low pressure if you have the air tube size to support the amount of fuel delivered.  If you have enough air and fuel to fill out a larger mantle then you'll have more light.
Open both air tubes and a 252 and you'll see what I mean.  
Chuck, 3/61, ICCC 1689
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Tgarner01
I agree with everything Chuck mentioned, and I would add that I believe double mantle lamps/lanterns have less chance of generating problems in breezy conditions as well as generating faster on instant light setups.. also Coleman sold mantles... So why not have two? ðŸ˜

I prefer the singles myself.. But there is something about the sound of a quicklite that is hard to not like.
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Tigerfans2
Well...the Arc Lamp was a single mantle 😉
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Tigerfans2
Nik,
You're mixing oranges and tangerines in your initial post. With Very few exceptions Coleman Lamps were 2 mantle, Lanterns were made both ways, still are.

As to why you would want a single vs a double is easy,  how else are you going to fill your house, garage, shed and barn with your collection if you don't collect both???
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nikdanger
Now that's funny, collect both singles and dualies.😜
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Gunhippie
First single-mantle Coleman lantern was the 242, released in '34.

I suspect that it was believed that a double-mantle lantern would throw less harsh (more diffuse) light as the area of two mantles is twice that of one. But at even a few feet away, a double throws just as crisp of a shadow as a single.
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Other than the always awesome information provided by those that have already posted above, I’ll add that if you don’t see any item(s) you’re looking for in the classified section on this site, you can also post a WTB/ISO ad in that same section as well. 

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Dmacp
when it comes to light produced or fuel consumed there is very little difference between one and two mantle lanterns. Unless it is a 500 CP model.
Dan
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zoomkat
The difference might be a way of optimizing lantern output. The light produced is probably a function of mantle surface area as well as how well the surface area is heated by the burner(s).
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Chucker
A 'modern' lantern the 288 uses the same volume of fuel and combustion air as it's single mantle sister the 286.

Same frame height, fount, valve, fuel tube, bail, vent, and globe. Two mantles simply split the light output normally there with the single in this example. So why use the two mantle? I don't very often. 

Sometimes I run a two mantle for the looks of some of the old classics and the simplicity of some. 
Chuck
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Tigerfans2
As an aside....
Take a good running CQ outside and let a breeze run across the generator.  Bad things can happen...

Hmmmm....

Maybe dual mantles to keep the generator generating from the extra heat applied to Two sides of the generator.  On lamps too because not all 1900's homes were perfectly sealed......
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Gasman64
Well, Peter, if any of my single or double mantle lanterns hurts my eyes to look at (and I turn away, seeing blue spots), it's fine with me.
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Gavercronos
I'm of the thought that two mantles was Coleman's easiest way to ensure even heat around the generator. Ever see a 242, 200A, or 237 generator shaped like a banana? I have. I guess it wasn't so much of an issue with the match lighting and later lanterns because the generator isn't load-bearing, but on the torch-lighting lamps that thing holds half the lamp up!
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n9zes

Chucker wrote:
A 'modern' lantern the 288 uses the same volume of fuel and combustion air as it's single mantle sister the 286.  


Indeed, and my 286 sounds like a jet engine when fully pumped up compared to my CL2/288's.  The 286, however, is obscenely bright running kerosene with a 24A or even a 111 if you burn it in with fuel so it shrinks a little more.  I do like the 286 and it is my go-to for just about everything where small, simple, and reliable fits the bill.

Chris

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Gunhippie
Gavercronos wrote:
I'm of the thought that two mantles was Coleman's easiest way to ensure even heat around the generator. Ever see a 242, 200A, or 237 generator shaped like a banana? I have. I guess it wasn't so much of an issue with the match lighting and later lanterns because the generator isn't load-bearing, but on the torch-lighting lamps that thing holds half the lamp up!


Good point. My 237 gen looks like a boomerang after a winter of use!
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