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JosephDurham
Wondering why, every time I’ve tied on a pair of mantles, light them and get them to ash, they end up with holes. Every single pair. Is it because of them being poorly made?  They are the Coleman mantles. 

Joseph Durham

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Newfie
Are they new Coleman mantles with the dark green packaging? If so then yes, they are poorly made. Holes are not uncommon after very short periods of use. If you can get your hands on a pair of older Coleman Silk-Lites you'll have better luck. 

Peerless used to make good mantles but if my memory serves me correctly the current ones made in India aren't as durable as the ones previously made in the Phillipines.
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Pancholoco1911

New Coleman mantles are garbage. 

silk-lite are expensive on the bay, people are selling them for $7-10 a package of two. 

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ecblanks
How big are the holes?  
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25 502s
What’s your method of burning them in?  I use a propane torch and completely burn them in. I mean completely from bottom to top, including the area that is tied around the burner cap. Then let them cool good, the fire away. I’ve used the new  tie on dark green tops, clip ons and silk lites. I can only think of one time I had holes in my mantles. I might just be extremely lucky but you might try that method. It works for me. 
Jason
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Hot Diggity
Since we can't get inexpensive thorium mantles anymore I've tried lots of odd stuff.
Some are good, coarse weave or fine, some have tiny silky string that's hard to tie.  The biggest trick I've learned was to tie way oversize mantles above the burner, or to burn them in by lighting the lantern.  This makes them shrink considerably.
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Hot Diggity
Interesting that I've found NO mantle as sorry as the new Coleman 21A mantles.
And they even come in clip on. 🤨
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D421
This will be an interesting thread to follow and see all the opinions and tricks.

As for me I sure agree silk lites are to best. However the new coleman mantles work pretty well and I don't have problems with holes.  

I burn new mantles with a soft flame from a propane torch and light them before they cool.  Then I run them for at least a half hour with a lot of pressure.  

Nope not as good as the old ones but I watch some pretty good size bugs bounce off my exposed lamp mantles and they run without holes for many runs. 

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25 502s

This is the first lantern I ever fettled over 2 years ago. Per instructions I used a cheap “test” Coleman clip on. I just lit it for this pic. That’s the same mantle from 2 years ago. I have dreams of ripping that mantle off and putting on a coarse silk lite but it’s probably the brightest lantern I own so I’ll let it be a little longer lol. 

Oh, the globe is not original to the lantern and the burn marks where there when I bought it.  62D9F93E-974D-4E9E-BB55-FDBA378B1802.jpeg  91D63E8C-952C-4A52-BEF9-5F29273D78A5.jpeg  D7D674F5-184D-46F3-856A-9965D1C3F13A.jpeg 

Jason
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zoomkat
The single small holes in the Coleman mantles don't seem to impact their light output much, so I just leave them be. Below is an Aladdin mantle on the left and a Coleman on the right with a small hole. If the holes get bigger, then probably time to change the mantle out.

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Chucker
I don't seem to have as many holes as some report with the new Coleman's. I just light them and let them cool. Then a good 20-30 minute burn-in at high pressure. 

If I want a mantles that will last a few trips I use Petromax Original's. They say 500cp but can be burned in smaller or as mentioned earlier tied above the burner cap to make them 'smaller'. 
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JosephDurham

Well, my method of burning them in is I take a long lighter and burn the bottom of them both and let them make their way to the top. I generally wait 10 minutes and then I light them. Maybe I need to try a torch and light the entire thing and then let it set. 


Jason, that is a beautiful lantern btw. 


Carlton, the holes are big enough to notice. As to the diameter, I’m not certain. 


Yes, they are the new Coleman mantles; I buy them from Walmart. I get 4 mantles for about $2.89. 

Joseph Durham

ICCC #1954
Looking for bday lantern 10/84

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BrightSpot
Your a smart shopper. I have had good luck with Coleman mantles. Not 100% though. I tie them on or clip them on usually in a globe removed and vent-less lantern. Then I light the bottom of the mantle(s) with what ever means are available (eventually you'll find what works best), I'm full of fuel and pumped UP! When I see they are smoking good; I cut in the fuel. Voila! They puff out to what a mantle should look like. Then I replace the globe, vent, bail and vent nut. Kick back and enjoy ðŸ·
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Encee

I use the cheap coleman mantles from wally world.. Only time I’ve gotten holes was from user error. 

My method is quick and simple.. use my bbq lighter on full blast to get a nice orange flame and burn as much of the mantle as possible. Wait.. impatiently... maybe 1-2 minutes after the mantle smolders and no more burning or smoking. After that, simply pump it up a good 35 times and let her rip. As per the others above me, I let them burn for about 30 minutes or more. No holes and have even accidentally nicked them after the process with my bbq lighter. Maybe I’m lucky.. they are so cheap I just swap them out if I notice anything I don’t approve of. 

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Gavercronos
Don't listen to the people who summarily dismiss Coleman mantles as garbage. They are made in batches like everything else, and a very large batch of bad ones got out about five years ago. The newest ones I've picked up are as good as the old Peerless. 
Just play with your lighting style until you find a way that works.
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MYN
Wondering why, every time I’ve tied on a pair of mantles, light them and get them to ash, they end up with holes. Every single pair. Is it because of them being poorly made?  They are the Coleman mantles. 

Did you mean just after the initial burn or after a while using them?
If the initial burn-in creates holes in your mantles, then they are just from a bad batch.
If its after a while during operation of the lantern, there could be various reasons as had been stated earlier by others; bad screens, overly strong fuel-air surges when you open the valve, poorly made, among others.
Hot Diggity wrote:
Since we can't get inexpensive thorium mantles anymore I've tried lots of odd stuff.
Some are good, coarse weave or fine, some have tiny silky string that's hard to tie.  The biggest trick I've learned was to tie way oversize mantles above the burner, or to burn them in by lighting the lantern.  This makes them shrink considerably.

Cheap Thoriated mantles are still available and being made in China. A lot cheaper than say, the current Coleman #21s.
I'd guess they're just as bright as the old Silklites though they could be far less durable. Quality could differ considerably between batches.
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pagrey
I thought I was having trouble burning my Coleman mantles in properly. I had a hole in several in a row. That is until I took a close look at what was in the package.

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I've had several packages like this. You might not be doing anything wrong, most people never think to check a new mantle for holes. Once burned in I've been happy with the Coleman mantles but quality control hasn't been great recently.
Paul
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ShootinAce
I'm still fairly new to collecting and I've only had experience with coleman (old and new) and peerless mantles. Almost all of the peerless purchased through our sponsor OCP have been good quality with no holes and string centered around the top. The newer coleman mantles purchased through OCP and local hardware store have been hit or miss. Only a few have had holes after burn in. Main issue is the quality control of the string being centered, evenly spaced, and stitching to make a properly proportioned bulb.

My burn in routine is a little different. I use denatured alcohol dripped from the burner tube, letting gravity soak the mantle. Note if using newer coleman mantles, place paper towel under mantle due to the green dye used which will leave a residue on the burner frame if it drips down. This does not take much denatured alcohol at all, just make sure the whole mantle is damp. To me this procedure ensures the entire mantle gets thoroughly burned in without little spots being missed. The rest of the burn in is pretty normal, full tank, lots of pressure, and ran for at least a half hour or more.

Oh, and I never use a torch anymore. It always seemed it had way too much air pressure behind the flame and caused holes unnecessarily.

Adam

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Gunhippie
Maybe it's just bad luck, or maybe I managed to get the one batch that SUCKED, but I had horrible luck with new String Ties. Fortunately, I've had pretty good luck finding Silkies at yard sale/second-hand stores and now have a lifetime supply.

Other than the poor QC, I don't like the light color of the yttriated mantles. Give me thorium or give me death!

I've had very good results from Peerless--Phillipines--and Petromax mantles, too, even the freebies that were getting passed around a few years back. They're a little smaller than the Superiours, and perfect for lamps.

I have some Century Primus mantles that burn a bright blue--no idea what chemicals were used for those, but not the most pleasant light color, either.

I use my little Bernzo butane torch to light the mantles. I just "tickle" the mantle with the very tip of the flame, making sure it's evenly lit. Let cool for several minutes--until cold. I'm a little anal about getting the mantle gathers evenly distributed around the burner cap, but I like my mantles symmetrical:

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Old coarse-weave (heavy-duty) Silkies are my favorites, and are incredibly durable. As long as I keep the lantern upright while transporting, I never break one. I drive some pretty rough roads at excessive speeds at times, and even that doesn't bust the mantles.

I've found--the hard way--that transporting a lantern on its side is a very bad idea, even if laid on a down sleeping bag on the very comfy bed in the Van. I lost about half my mantles when transporting twenty-odd lanterns from a local show a few years back--and it was only about a mile from home on paved roads!

BTW: Light output isn't why we don't run with holey mantles. The hot plasma that shoots out of the hole in the mantle will cause foggy spots on the globe that cannot be removed--or even crack it. It can also cause damage to frame bases and other metal parts.

Here's a 242B with a hole in the mantle. I'm using my Fluke surface-contact thermocouple to measure the temp where the plasma hits the glass:

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That's degrees F. I shut the lantern down immediately after the picture, as that temp was climbing fast and it's a nice sunrise globe!
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JosephDurham
Well, today I placed new mantles on two of my lanterns and used a blow torch to singe them. They turned nicely!!  No holes at all. I waited about 10 minutes and lit it. Shined beautifully.  So, I’m guessing it was my initial lighting method. 

Joseph Durham

ICCC #1954
Looking for bday lantern 10/84

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arizonacamper
I've never had a problem with the new mantles. I just light them with a match let them burn. when they're done and cooled a little bit fire it up under low pressure till they get their shape. pump some pressure on and let them run about 20 minutes to half an hour and then set to go. I've only replaced one mantle in the last 2 years.
Shawn 
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Lanterns are like tools. 
You can not have too many unless your wife says so!!

Gas is what you use for washing parts diesel is for making power!

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JosephDurham
I've never had a problem with the new mantles. I just light them with a match let them burn. when they're done and cooled a little bit fire it up under low pressure till they get their shape. pump some pressure on and let them run about 20 minutes to half an hour and then set to go. I've only replaced one mantle in the last 2 years.
Shawn 


Thats cool. I’ll be interested in seeing when I have to replace a mantle. I’m sure traveling with them will play a part. 

Joseph Durham

ICCC #1954
Looking for bday lantern 10/84

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scl
i feel your pain.
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arizonacamper
Do what I do whenever I take my stuff out camping. always bring lots of extra mantles you just never know what will happen.
Shawn 
Owner of Copper State Diesel And Automotive. See my facebook page.

Lanterns are like tools. 
You can not have too many unless your wife says so!!

Gas is what you use for washing parts diesel is for making power!

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Looking for any lanterns or stoves dated 5/63 or 1/72
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25 502s
I’m going to be set on coarse silk lites for awhile.  ED6DDB9C-CF7C-48BF-A1D3-189507E69B0A.jpeg 
Jason
not looking for any more Bday gpas. Honestly, if you have a 10-72 don’t let me know about it.
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MYN
I've never come across mantles that burn/glow with a blue light, @Gunhippie
I'm sure curious about those Century Primus of yours.
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