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I wondered if anyone had ever heard of these guys? They were apparently competitors of Abercrombie and Fitch for the "upscale" sporting goods market up through 1928 when A&F bought them out.

A friend recently pointed out a listing on the auction site where the guy was selling a VL&A lantern case that appears to be the same design and build as the A&F cases that have been displayed from time to time on the CCF. I love the A&F cases so I was pretty excited when he told me about it.

Anyways, does anyone else have one of these or has anyone seen one? I think they must be fairly rare as I never came across them at all when I was "researching" the A&F cases.

If anyone has any info it would be appreciated. 

Here are photos taken from the listing:

VL&A Case Pic 1.jpg  VL&A Case Pic 2.jpg 

Mike Weise

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Gand28
Hope you bought it.  I've never heard of them and it's an interesting timeline as I don't think Coleman made a single mantle lantern before the early 1930's with the 242.  Does it have the spring platform inside?
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Greg, it does have the spring platform inside. I'll get some more photos ASAP. I've found a couple old catalogues online and it appears A&F used the VL&A logo for a while after acquiring them. A&F in New York and VL&A in Chicago.

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I'm trying to get some photos of the case(s) from their old catalogs hopefully that will bear fruit.

I don't know if I'm the only one who is super interested in this kind of history but just in case someone else is curious or finds a VL&A case and goes on to look at this thread in the future, here's what I found:

Von Lengerke & Antoine in Chicago and Von Lengerke & Detmold in New York were well know and respected arms and sporting goods merchants. Bob Christensen wrote a very thorough article for Hunting and Fishing Collectibles Magazine (articles in Vol 4, No. 1 and Vol 4 No. 2 are available from  http://www.HFcollectibles.com ) about the Von Lengerkes. Essentially, the story was that VL&D was formed in 1882 and VL&A in 1892 and were operated each by a Von Lengerke brother. Both companies were sold to Abercrombie & Fitch in 1928 but only VL&A continued to operate under its own name. In fact, VL&A survived in Chicago until 1959 when it too became an A&F store. The VL&D operation was folded into A&F in 1929 just in time for the Great Depression.

There's some other data I found that indicates VL&A in Chicago was linked to the Al Capone syndicate's gang activity in regard to selling them weapons.


Mike Weise

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I think it’s cool Mike!  This must have come from the VL&A store in Chicago. Maybe 30’s, 40’s or 50’s?
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HillCountry
I have two fiber cases and one is very similar to yours, but is unmarked, My late aunt used to refer to Abercrombie & Fitch in Chicago as VL&A, referring to the original name of the Chicago store before A&F bought them. I always wondered why she called them by that name but never asked. A&F was an elegant store with a bar cart in the fitting area for men's suits and only the best quality merchandise. I still have a Woods brand down parka made in Canada that I bought at A&F in the early 70's. Too warm to wear in Texas even in the coldest weather. It was a great store!

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Von Lengerke & Detmold were in N.Y. High end sporting goods.  Even imported a number of Mauser C96 pistols. c96.jpg 
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