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302w
Any suggestions? I removed the pip (if you can call it that) and flipped it over, still leaking. I feel that it needs a much stronger spring.

Also, is there a permanent method of locking down the height adjustment screw? Mine gets loose with heat and then fireballs.
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Chucker
Leaking PIP: make/buy a new one. If you make one use BunaN or Viton (65 Durometer hardness maximum). 

If by "height adjustment screw" you mean the threaded square lock nut on the pricker/carb shaft, I just tighten it by hand and try to feel when it makes contact then grasp the pricker rod with pliers and turn 1/4 more tight. 
Chuck
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302w
Will leather work?

I mean the air gap, sorry
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Chucker
I wouldn't trust leather for a PIP. Cork, yes. 

Gotcha, the air gap screw to lock the u-tube in place. Mine tend to hold fine. I suppose you might find some high temp muffler cement or lock-tite type goop. 
Chuck
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Chucker
Chucker wrote:
I wouldn't trust leather for a PIP. Cork, yes. 

Gotcha, the air gap screw to lock the u-tube in place. Mine tend to hold fine. I suppose you might find some high temp muffler cement or lock-tite type goop.


EDIT: You can use what the Euro's call "Copper Slip" or here in the states it is Permatex Copper Anti-seize. Add some extra graphite powder if you want. Temp rating is like 1800 deg.F

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mcdugal2
Muffler mender paste or refractory cement will hold the screw in place, but will allow you to unscrew the screw later... I also put some on the threads of the jet so it doesn't come loose...
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thezman
You can get a nut and bolt of the proper diameter and put it under the u tube to keep it from moving.
Almost every Amish and Mennoite Petromax I have seen has this bolt under the u tube. They know a thing or two about lanterns.
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Chucker
thezman wrote:
You can get a nut and bolt of the proper diameter and put it under the u tube to keep it from moving. Almost every Amish and Mennoite Petromax I have seen has this bolt under the u tube. They know a thing or two about lanterns.


Ah, so they might use a stainless steel or brass bolt and nut UNDER the U of the U-tube to make sure it doesn't close the gap. Wow, it won't be moving at all. 
Chuck
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ke4ljh
Call britlyt.com tell them what is happening and ask what parts you need.

Guessing and improvising parts is not necessary. All there parts will fit the legacy lanterns and the parts are better than the original parts.

Stephen - Florida
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302w
Chucker wrote:


Ah, so they might use a stainless steel or brass bolt and nut UNDER the U of the U-tube to make sure it doesn't close the gap. Wow, it won't be moving at all. 


I may be double posting, sorry. New forum is glitchy for me.
Does anyone understand the above posts? I'm crazy confused about where I'm supposed to fit a nut and bolt. Are real petromax burners different?[Hx8GwaR] 
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Chucker
Lets try this: the red arrow is the location it sounds like he was saying where the Amish fix a bolt/nut (probably drill a hole cross ways?). And the green arrow shows where the typical Petromax screw and plate are fixed to tighten against the tube to keep it from dropping or rising. 

That burner tube HAS to stay within tolerance's above the jet from the vaporizer (13mm-14mm on a 500cp lantern). 
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Smudge
I use a chunk of brass under the u tube. On some I started with a 1/8 NPT elbow or T, and sawed and grinded to size. I make it slightly smaller and add shims (red arrow). If I change the vaporizer or the nipple I can add or remove shims to account for variances.  Click image for larger version - Name: 6414267B-9CC5-4BB3-80AB-1ECFA0E8EDFB.jpeg, Views: 52, Size: 149.88 KB Click image for larger version - Name: F6B09702-8E8B-4FE1-BB13-8A62ED062C51.jpeg, Views: 51, Size: 174.56 KB
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thezman
Sorry 302, I got your email but then I got sidetracked.
Chucker has the right info as to where the bolt goes with the red arrow.
Set your gap and then find a bolt that fits under the u-tube (red arrow) and across the top of the frame (green arrow part)
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Smudge
You would need to replace the pip, like Chucker said. The old one is probably too hard and brittle. Also, check the alignment of the flame protecting tube so that the tip lever is not rubbing against it.
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GCinSC
First time I saw a Petro type TRY to start up (owner should have never bought it, he was more the LED type) it did finally light but then the U tube dropped can you say LITE UP! 

Fast forward 3-4 years and now I own 4 and fix them with good success. 

Ill look into making a U tube blocker. Think about that one, maybe you’ll have to say it out loud. 

My new market, a U Tube blocker.  
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Chucker
Thanks to all who chimed in here to help Jim. I apparently had gone to bed when you commented. 

"U-Tube" blocker - ha. 
Chuck
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302w
Do any of you think it would be worthwhile to apply some sort of strap over the u-tube to prevent it from going too high? 

Probably overkill but I'm overkill. 

I think I'm going to get a piece of steel or something and shape it. It will be construction site scrap whatever it will be.

 FYI, the tube is about 5/8" and 15/16" is the max that will clear the bracket

Thanks for all your help everyone. I already fixed the pip and used a chunk of gasket from an oil filter. Maybe I'll try an o-ring since I poorly cut the gasket.
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Smudge
302w wrote:
Do any of you think it would be worthwhile to apply some sort of strap over the u-tube to prevent it from going too high? .

It may not be necessary to hold down the u-tube. When the gas chamber and nozzle are attached, the upward movement is limited. 
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Chucker
Save doing a cobble job if you're not real certain about things. Below you'll see the set-up Petromax and others provide from the factory. Your burner assy is set up to run this way.
ALL THE PARTS can be found new, on-line for pennies at Britelyte.com.  I am NOT connected to that company other than being a past customer.

The parts needed are: a 'clip', 'screw', and 'crossbar'. Look under 500cp parts. 

See the source image

image courtesy of pressure-lanterns-il.com
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302w
I do have the clip, screw, and crossbar but I was having issues with the U tube moving. I suspect the heat/cool cycle is making things loose
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JimL
302w wrote:
I do have the clip, screw, and crossbar but I was having issues with the U tube moving. I suspect the heat/cool cycle is making things loose


This is why checking the air gap is part of the startup procedure. 

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Chucker
302w wrote:
I do have the clip, screw, and crossbar but I was having issues with the U tube moving. I suspect the heat/cool cycle is making things loose


Ah, I missed that, thank you. Once the screw etc. is tightened there should not be any movement of the tube. If you believe the screw may be getting hung up before it is really snug, just put a few drops of penetrating oil on the threads and try again. 

Also there is usually a nut above the burner cap/nozzle where it enters the frame. That can come loose and should be snugged up when needed. 
Chuck
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GCinSC
Chuck

Nice clear pic. I even had to replace the curved saddle on one that the screw pushes against the U Tube cause it was missing. 

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