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Ed, I think they look like skulls too!

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Wait. Does this mean Peerless mantles, i.e., those from OCP aren't radioactive?
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The ones I measured, definitely are.
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Our Walmart has the 4 pack of Coleman 21s for around $2.30...so I always stock up on those. I have several packs of the Peerless equivalent that I got on ebay for about the same price. I like them both. I'm not one of these guys who sits and compares mantles...if they work as advertised, then I'm good. I've never had any problems with the string tie Colemans and as long as Walmart carries them that cheap, I'll just keep getting them.
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I don't even buy modern Coleman mantles anymore b/c compared to Peerless and almost any other brand, they truly suck.They easily get holes/cracks in them and are not as bright. I don't know why anyone would use them other than for test purposes. Peerless, Lancaster and most others (except modern Coleman's) are radioactive (Thorium). No big deal using them. Just don't breath the smoke when burning them off and be careful disposing of the old ones.

On changing brake shoes, just put a catch pan under the assembly and spray it off with "brake cleen". It gets rid of most of the, maybe, asbestos dust/crap.  
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The Coleman ones are not bad, as long as you don't try and travel with a lantern that has previously burned mantles on it.  They crack and break far too easily.  I keep several packs on hand as spares and whatnot but they are not really up to the rigors of a long road trip.  

The Peerless ones are great in this regard.  A few months ago I spent a week in the back country of Death Valley-literally hundreds of miles of dirt roads.  All 3 of the lanterns I took(242, 200A and a 228F) survived as did the Peerless mantles.  Burned them every night until I ran out of Coleman fuel near the end of the trip.  Anyway, the Peerless mantles are worth the time and trouble to find and stockpile.  They are cost competitive with Coleman, significantly brighter, and far more durable, making them a superior choice.  I'm glad OCP keeps them around.

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The Coleman ones are not bad, as long as you don't try and travel with a lantern that has previously burned mantles on it.  They crack and break far too easily.  I keep several packs on hand as spares and whatnot but they are not really up to the rigors of a long road trip.


I stole a bottle of my wife's White Rain hairspray and soak down the mantles on lantern's I'm traveling with.  I haven't noticed any deleterious effects, and I've been able to make a couple of 4 hour plus trips without breaking them.

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In today's world the radioactivity from these mantels should be the last of our worries. I think peerless are the best.


If you cook using a microwave, these mantels are the LEAST of your worries. 
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I have met Sam Blank,owner of Peerless Mantles, as have many others that have attended ICCC Conventions. He is truly into it to make the best mantle possible, and don't quote me, but I believe he states his mantles are not radioactive. He also treats his employees with respect and meets all safety requirements in his factory in the Phillipines. He is also a member here on the CCF
BTW I really like his superior product

Radio active or not, Such low levels are no big deal to me..I do agree with most of the others, Peerless seems to be the best brand currently available. I just bought another 21 packs from OCP this week. The quality is good. The price is right..

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Peerless are  bright and plan to order some big'uns for the 237A soon and thanks for the "borrowed" ones.  However, none will stand up to blowing that trash out of the bottom of the burner frame.  Yes I did it!

Love those SilkLites too.

I also see I'm not the only one that hangs around to watch that last little bit of flame!!  Are we all crazy?!

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Walmart Coleman 21s = 2.47 per 4 pack
OCP Peerless 2C-HGs = 2.25 per 4 pack

Coleman = 25% loss rate on burning in new mantles (tearing on initial burn in, developing pinholes on first fuel burn, etc) My brand new 639 came with Coleman mantles of course, and the first one ripped from tie string to closed end before even finishing initial burn. 50% loss rate.
Peerless = never lost one that wasn't MY fault (working on lantern, knocked lamp over with elbow, blowing on 'em to see how much more than Colemans they would take, etc)

P.S. Every time I have ordered fom OCP, I get a hand written note from Mike either thanking me for my business, or telling me what he threw in for free. I have yet to get a sincere "thank you" from chinamart, much less anything for free or useful advice/help with their products.


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//wrong label here:re - dpatten

//correction - intended to refer to the post above, about getting a thank you.
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>>P.S. Every time I have ordered fom OCP, I get a hand written 

>>note from Mike either thanking me for my business, or telling
>>me what he threw in for free. I have yet to get a 
sincere "thank you"
>>from chinamart, much less anything for free or 
useful advice/help with their products.


When I worked in the grocery, we used to say 

"Thank you Mrs. Boudreaux, please come again".

I tell clerks thank you because they do not thank me.  
Then they say you are welcome - go figure ?

They missed my point entirely...

anyhow, I digress


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Bump, because this thread answered just about all the questions I just asked in a new thread.
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The last time I looked, Coleman was selling two mantles for about $2.50 in a pack of 21's. The Peerless are stronger, whiter, larger, cheaper. The last few Coleman mantles that I used, they tore on the initial lightup. I don't have that problem with Peerless. The old Silklites were just fine, the current Coleman mantles just aren't what they used to be.


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Coleman's are fine, once I used a Peerless I haven't purchased another C mantle......everyone should at least give them a try.....
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Yesterday I bought a 220J that had unburned Colemans on it. I burned them in and one had a nice hole in it. Ripped them right of and on went Peerless and it burned happy as a clam. How happy are clams?

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New production Coleman mantles really do suck! A gnat could fart and blow a hole in them also they are nowhere near as bright as a Peerless mantle. Most likely quality took a hit in order to pad the bottom line. Seems like Coleman is trying to get out of the GPA business at least as far as lanterns are concerned! Don't let me get started about their website as far as parts are concerned!



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Any chance of Peerless coming out with a Northstar Mantle?
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Don't let me get started about their website as far as parts are concerned!




Being an old school auto parts and military supply guy, I get an aneurism each time I try to search for parts on their site!

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Peerless are simply STRONGER, and put out as much or more light . There's really no opinion needed on this. It's fact.:
Peerless remain flexible after being burned in.  Do your own test.  
Put a 21 and a 2C-HG on a 220 and burn them an hour. Douse the lantern and let cool. Now touch them with your finger.  

I use Coleman for testing. Most develop a hole in anywhere from one to eight hours of use.  Some immediately.

I have a long Peerless 24-A  (about double the size of a 21) that rides in my car (1963 VW Bug). Been there about a year and a half.  That big mantle should be subject to more stress just carrying itself, but it's still flexible and is fine every time I check it. 
I have over 200 working lanterns and have only replaced one Peerless mantle due to a hole, and that was on the screenless Kamplite LRL-21 that blew a rust flake out the burner.

Hint on saving money: The more packs you order from OCP the better the value on the $5 flat shipping. Order 20.
PLUS, if they last even only twice as long, then that's double your value. I would not hesitate to say that they will without a doubt they EASILY last 5 times longer. That's how you count your value.
I have many Peerless mantles with well over a hundred hours on them.  I burn my favorite AGM 3016 and Kamplite LRL at least once a week for 3-6 hours and both have had the same mantle well over 18 months. Do the math.  That's approaching 200 hours.
No new production Coleman mantle will do that.


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They took the thorium out of Aladdin mantles some years ago-result--not as bright.   I'll take Peerless for my colemans.
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You'd have to eat like 300 mantles to get the same dose of radiation you get in one dental X ray.
Not all radiation is deadly. You get radiation every day from the sun and a host of other products and natural occurrences.
As soon as people hear the word radiation, they panic out of common, and understandable, ignorance of the details.

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