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I have never been a big fan of the Mil-Specs but have ended up with a few, too good to pass up deals, and am just wondering , are there certain years that are more desirable, certain years of smaller production, etc.? 

From what I've picked up here, the 1963 was the only year Thermos produced one in their Macomb, IL plant. Just wondering from others perspective if certain years had smaller production numbers, or are there any production records available? 

Does anyone here have or know of anyone with the complete run 44-91, Roger Hill perhaps?  TIA, Randall.

1962 and 1970 stamped lanterns have never been recorded (as of yet)

As info  slows, I will tally sums  for each year and that, should give a little insight regarding  years that were more commonally found vs. years that are scarcer. Of course the data will ony pertain to ones reported in this thread so may not reflect true numbers but it will be interesting I think.  Thanks to  everyone who posts their info, Randall.

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Here are the years/mfrs. Not sure about a list for numbers per year.

From Neil and Warren: (anyone have a 1962 or 1970?)

 

1944 Akron, AGM (Albert Lee,MN), Coleman (Wichita, KS)

1945 AGM, Coleman

1951 AGM

1952-1961 Coleman

1963 Coleman, Thermos

1964-1966 Coleman

1967 Coleman, AutoFab

1968-1969 Coleman

1971-1972 Form-Tech

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1977 Armstrong Products (Huntington, WV)

1978 Armstrong Products

1979 Coleman, SMP (State Machine Products, Dry Ridge KY)

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Thanks for reposting the list , Chucker!

It just seems that I see (here) a lot of 52's, 58's, 45's etc. but hardly ever see a '64, '68,'69,'53 and a few others.

Never seen a '57, that I remember.

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It just seems that I see (here) a lot of 52's, 58's, 45's etc. but hardly ever see a '64, '69,'53 and a few others.


I have a 69 , 58 , 45 , 86 SMP , and converted 42 BX with 44 Burner.

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But your '69 is about the only one that I see mentioned here.
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I have a '57, among others......
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I have one, a '77 Armstrong, strong runner, & really not too finicky to get running.  I've replaced the jet on the generator with one off a 200, & it's a LOT brighter now, & boy listen to it roar!  Not one you want sitting on the picnic table while you're trying to have a conversation...  lol
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We have a 58 Coleman that is a strong, easy to lite runner and a 87 SMP that we have yet to work on.
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I'd like to get a Milspec from 1967, 68 or 1969 as I also collect LRP/LRRP/Ranger items from the Vietnam era. It's next on my target list of lanterns to own.
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Thanks for the info. Curly, what are your thoughts on this question. I know you specialize, to some degree, in the MilSpecs. I wonder why Roger Hill doesn't ever frequent the forums here? A couple years ago (approx.) during some communication with him, I mentioned the forums here and he acted like he was not familiar with this place, thought that was odd, but oh well?
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But your '69 is about the only one that I see mentioned here.


I also have a '69

also a '44 '52' '66

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Here is list of dates reported in this thread so far. I welcome any and all info/ dates, will not include manufacture since the above list covers.  1962 and 1970  marked lanterns have never been seen by collectors as far as is known.

 Second Column = year of manufacturer as marked on base plate.
     Yr. 19--                          Yr. 19--                                    Yr. 19--
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 1-    44                            19-                                           38-  80
 2-    45                            20-    63                                   39-
 3-                                    21-                                            40-
 4-                                    22-   65                                     41-  83
-5-                                    23-   66                                     42-  84
 6-                                    24-   67                                     43-  85
 7-                                    25-                                            44-  86
 8-                                    26-   69                                     45-  87
 9-     52                           27-                                            46-  88
10-                                   28-   71                                     47-   
11-    54                           29-   72                                     48-
12-    55                           30-   73                                     49-   91
13-    56                           31-
14-    57                           32-   75
15-    58                           34-    
16-    59                           35-    77
17-                                   36-    
18-    61                           37-     79


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Once, at a very large flea market, I picked up two milspecs from two different dealers.  Both were 1969 and neither had quad globes.  They both had the "U.S." marked globes from '44 to '52.  It's true, it seems like certain years of milspecs are more concentrated in different parts of the country.

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I'm sure this topic has probably been explored in the past, but I don't remember seeing anything on here in my memory(no surprise, concerning my memory).
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I've a 52 and a 73.  I had a 44 but the fount died.
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dpatten- I counted your '44 even w/bad fount

I have 2-'67's , '63, '80, and a '77 and a '45 to add. Also a 7 - 42  late B conversion, I will record the earlier dated converts in this category after more data.(edit) forgot about a '51 that I have that is in like fired once condition.

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I wonder if this info will be in the new greenbook?
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Heck! I would just love to have a Mil-Spec from any year. I have none.....[sSa_cry4]

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OCETECH- I made the mistake of not liking these from the get-go, probably mainly from reading neg, reviews on here. So I used to not pick them up and have passed over many through the years, I regret having done that now...AW, Live and Learn.

I suspect someone may come along and have most if not all yrs. in their collection.

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I have a 1965 coleman Mil-Spec I picked up the other day
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true that I have a lot of them.  the actual war years tend to be the rarest. so from 46-51 for Korea and the Vietnam 64-69, then 90-91. I have only seen a pic of one 69 and now the ones mentioned here.

My opinion on regional availability is that each National Guard and Reserve stock pile stores would be refitted at different intervals and then sold off as DRMO  in bulk or batches and not by single lanterns. this is also why one can find NOS from 40 years ago to this day

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    The Korean War was June 1950 to July 27, 1953 and Vietnam was 1964 to 1975, actual large scale ops started around 1964.  The war didn't end in 1969 there was still plenty of action after that point.  The Vietnam Veterans of America membership is open to people who were involved in other than training purposes starting in 1961. So any milspec until April 1975 would be a "war" lantern to me.

Membership is open to U.S. armed forces veterans who served on active duty (for other than training purposes) in the Republic of Vietnam between February 28, 1961, and May 7, 1975

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We're getting there, Thanks!!
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I have a 1984 and a 1979 to add to the list also.
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I have a 1956.
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Here are pics of mine

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I have a 1965 coleman Mil-Spec I picked up the other day


Now you're really going to make me cry. I have never seen a Mil-Spec in the wild here in Utah and we have one of the largest Mil-Surplus bases there is here.



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Got my '69, once fired, with original box on the local Boston Craigslist last year.
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There are 2 1969's on Ebay right now, one for $125 buy it now, but it is a bit rough, the other for $150 buy it now in really nice NOS shape.

There are a fair amount of money vs finding one in the wild.  I am still searching the bushes for more.

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I have a 1944 coleman unfired, a 1961 coleman, 1967 auto-fab and a 1972 F. T. 
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    The Korean War was June 1950 to July 27, 1953 and Vietnam was 1964 to 1975, actual large scale ops started around 1964.  The war didn't end in 1969 there was still plenty of action after that point.  The Vietnam Veterans of America membership is open to people who were involved in other than training purposes starting in 1961. So any milspec until April 1975 would be a "war" lantern to me.

Membership is open to U.S. armed forces veterans who served on active duty (for other than training purposes) in the Republic of Vietnam between February 28, 1961, and May 7, 1975

Jeff USN 1972-1976 - Life Member Vietnam Veterans of America


Perhaps I was a bit vague when I put the dates in. I showed what i had seen as gaps in the years that they seem to be available now. From what my contract specialist on post told me about it when asked, Equipment such as lanterns that are sent to a war zone typically come from pre existing stock at the onset and then would be re ordered or have a larger numbered ordered as the stocks ran low during or immediately after. So lanterns sent in 1950 would have been made before. The same for the Vietnam years. Then there was the less predictable war stock warehouses in the state NG or RESERVE replenishment or the all together end of life cycle for the Milspecs in the mid 90's. The Army post I work at Drmo auctioned pallets 4x4 x 3ft deep full of turn in lanterns.

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Randall, you can add:

1-AGM 1951
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Not a problem and your explanation makes sense.

I will bet those 4x4 pallets when for dirt cheap money!

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Ugh I am using a phone and can't edit it worth a hoot.
I wanted to add a thanks for including the dates of the conflicts. [smile]

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Ugh I am using a phone and can't edit it worth a hoot.
I wanted to add a thanks for including the dates of the conflicts. [smile]


Here are the dates that I have. Can someone add them?
44 45 51 52 58 63 65 66 67 71 73 77-84 86 91

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You forgot the '69's
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Lol I didn't forget. I don't have one yet
My list is what I have

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Opps, my mistake.

Hey I will trade you a '69 only fired a few times with a box for any 8 of your others [sFun_mischieviousbig]

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Thanks everyone, the list is filling out nicely but some gaps are starting to appear and I doubt the all get filled...not counting the two years that we already knew that hadn't been seen.

@Curly- Thanks for the "insider" info!

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I can add an 81 to the missing numbers.  Also on the shelf is 45, 65, 67, 79 & 80
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Probable already mentioned:

51 AGM, 52 Coleman, 63 King Seeley, 65 Coleman, 67 AFM, 69 Coleman


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I've got the same,a '65 Coleman, that I'm going to give to our club to auction off at the MVPA convention this month.

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The period between '45 and '55 is looking pretty sparse , I'm quite sure I've seen a few that fall in that period, but not many. 
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In an older post, I remember seeing that Roger Hill had a nice display at one of the conventions a few years back. Anyone on here that went and remembers, did his display have an all inclusive run through the years?

Jan, in some of the older posts you posted a bunch of pics showing that display. Do you remember any of what was included?  Thanks if you have any comments on his display, anyone else? Might have been the Convention at Yucca Valley? Thanks again for anyone who provided or provides info in the future !

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I just won a milspec on Ebay, my first non-Coleman, an SMP:.  The fount looks like it is missing most of the paint and I probably over paid at $39 but the picture shows it working, so that is one thing. It is a 1981, my first later than my '69  I guess I was inspired rightly or wrongly by this thread.
  Oh well, it is not more expensive than taking the wife out to dinner, so we will have smoked chicken this weekend!


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OK here is the consolidated list so far:  (great Idea Randall)
if you have one that is not marked as yes, please post that and I'll update this evening


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not surprising that the post-war years are scarce, after every iteration of a "war to end all wars" procurement budgets plummet and after WWII there should have been literally a ton of left over lanterns. Even having 1948 represented seems odd
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I just won a milspec on Ebay, my first non-Coleman, an SMP:.  The fount looks like it is missing most of the paint and I probably over paid at $39 but the picture shows it working, so that is one thing. It is a 1981, my first later than my '69  I guess I was inspired rightly or wrongly by this thread.
  Oh well, it is not more expensive than taking the wife out to dinner, so we will have smoked chicken this weekend!



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not surprising that the post-war years are scarce, after every iteration of a "war to end all wars" procurement budgets plummet and after WWII there should have been literally a ton of left over lanterns. Even having 1948 represented seems odd


who has the 48?  i went back through and didn't see it mentioned other then in Randall's list

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Good catch Curly, it appears that I mis-read my own scribbles while transcribing from my paper notes, I must have mistaken a poorly marked  5, from 45, as an eight, hence 48.  Thanks for pointing that out! 

I wish others would chime in with their MilSpec. Years. 

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