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atomicbee
Hello again, I must of deleted some of previous post on Friday but got some great tips from the Coleman members regarding ("When NOT to buy a Coleman in the wild") I happen to see a early morning Estate sale in a neighboring retirement community and went hunting...found this in the garage with other junk and tools. I tried to find the case,wrench and funnel but this place was a mess. I had my light and it looked inside the Fount and it looked clean with no rattling BUT the cleaner tip rod was bent bad and would only turn 180 degrees. This A46 was not holding any pressure and frame was missing a rivet.  I used Murffs very helpful 530 rebuild post(Thank you) and the gaskets and screens from Eel (Thx!) and started to removed and clean everything including the bent tip cleaner rod but Not FA tube assembly (maybe I should have?)  she's holding pressure and spiting air from burner. Should I look for anything else before I make a blow torch?
 
1.replaced cap gasket
2.Cleaned and lubed pump leather and chamber (spotless now)
3.replaced burner screen and cleaned up burner bowl assembly
4.Removed tip cleaner and the eccentric block and straighten tip cleaner rod
5. Added some fuel BUT did not light yet...kinda worried since it my first partial rebuild.
 Bally Coleman Bill
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JimL
I didn't realize the flame spreader could be removed without damaging it.  How did you remove it?

-Jim

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 - Santa Claus And Other Lies Your Parents Told You
 - Pop! Goes Froggy, And Other Great Microwave Games
 - Operation and Nomenclature of the Colt 1911-A1 .45 ACP

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atomicbee
When I realized the cup was brass(soft metal) a carefully squeezed one end of cup until one steel point popped out and did the same on other end. reinstall the same way and reformed brass cup by hand until star was secure. 
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REJ2
I don't pull the F/A on anything until I know it needs it. A bit of fuel and a few minutes will tell ya.
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Gand28
I’m the opposite. I always pull the valve and clean the F/A. Just wait until you get it all back together and then have to take it apart again. Only a few minutes to removes and clean the valve assembly....but that’s just me. 
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atomicbee
She's Alive!! Yep She raged a 3ft flame for about a minute per Murffs 530 post and then settle down to a blue/green flame but was not even around burner.I restarted 3 times and she seems to play nice now. Do you pull the screen and check for fount filth now? also the original burner screen was longer then the one I replaced but not sure if that makes any difference?
 Bally Coleman Bill
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atomicbee
yes but the fount looked pretty clean and showed no sign of junk inside but thinking now I should have done this during rebuild just to be 100% complete.Is it easier to clean or replace the FA?
 Bally Coleman Bill
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Gand28
Only replace the FA tube if damaged. A quick clean and ream the rod through both ends to make sure it’s clear.

PS, looks great. The light up is the best part!
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atomicbee
 Oh ok- thanks for that F/A tip, no the best part was watching my 85yr old Mother-in laws face and her run away when I fired it up the first time! What's your thoughts on pulling the burner/vape screen also?
 Bally Coleman Bill
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Gand28
If you replaced the screen, it should be fine. They go many operating hours before needing service. 
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atomicbee
great thank you!
 Bally Coleman Bill
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holliswood
Looks great!! Not bad at $25. Wish I had your luck 👍🏻
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atomicbee
Thx, I almost missed it,I saw 3 burner flip legs pointing out of a box and knew exactly what it was..I cleaned it up before a took the pics so it looked a lot worse. Just need to get some chrome cleaner to shine and start looking for funnel, wrench and that elusive metal case x 2.I feel like Indian Jones of the lantern world... I can"t wait to retire and do this full time!
 Bally Coleman Bill
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TwoCanoes
The wrench is available here:  https://www.oldcolemanparts.com/product.php?productid=1887&cat=&page=1
I bought a 530 last Friday.  It was so clean I figured it would fire up right away.  I unstuck the check valve, conditioned the pump leather and put in a new cap gasket, but it wouldn't start.  I decided to get to the F&A tube only if necessary, and it looks like it will be necessary.  These are so easy to remove the frame, I figured why not test it first then get to the F&A tube if necessary.  You got a great find.  These are pretty cool stoves.
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TwoCanoes
A reproduction funnel is also available at OCP:  https://www.oldcolemanparts.com/product.php?productid=1039&cat=&page=4
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Gunhippie
Just to make my life easier in the future, I replace the four screws that retain the frame with brass ones from the hardware store. I don't recall what size they are, but it's common and Ace had them. Brass screws won't corrode and lock up like the steel ones it came with.

Have fun scaring the begeezus of the in-laws!
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atomicbee
Hi thanks for the leads on funnel and wrench,two canoe's change the screen on burner nozzle before you change out the F,a tube.screen was caked in junk
 Bally Coleman Bill
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Nighthawk
I found the one I have, complete, for $4 at an estate sale. Pricker rod bent to an s shape, carefully straightened it out.   That first light up will wake you up for sure!
Enjoy 
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atomicbee
wow nice $4 find did you do a full tear down? did she light first time? Looks like my first B47 needs a full tear down to clean out the F/A tube since it just wont stay lit more the 3 mins . A46 is boiling water like a rock star!
 Bally Coleman Bill
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Eel
Hey Bill, that's lookin' good. 
As a general statement, almost all FA tubes can be cleaned and reused - very few are split or otherwise permanently damaged, and if you solder, split FA tubes are easy to fix.

Bill and others, look me up for a stainless 530 fastener kit.  The usual price.

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atomicbee
Hi Eel,Hope all is well, The  530-B47 is dissembled but the valve assembly will not unscrew from fount so I"am letting it soak overnight and hope it breaks free tomorrow. I tried to clean all the crude out without removing the FA but that proved to make it worse(I dented the fount with oil filter tool) but its a good learning session so far!! What does that 530 kit have?
 Bally Coleman Bill
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Eel
Hi Bill - Kit is just some new hdwe to attach the frame to the fount.  Will send you a couple with the half-can.  I think you have gaskets, will send more, never hurts.
Are you able to apply some heat to the fount/valve junction without having a residual-fuel fire?  Loctite breaks under heat.

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atomicbee
Hey Eel your the best Thx!! yes that was my next move, Just waiting for the fount to completely dry out. I now light one or 2 Colemans everyday so I get used to the priming and flame adjustment on all my models. Just made more tea on the 530-A46 with the 242 lantern hanging on hook behind me. Wife and M- inlaw think I"am crazy!! Wednesday is the 413 stove and 275 lantern but was wondering if they make or recommend  a griddle for that 413? I want to make pancake and eggs this weekend with coffee brewing on 530 or 502 stove
 Bally Coleman Bill
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Chucker
Any 19" cast griddle will work fine on that 413. Coleman has made a few cast aluminum griddles with grease catches but any that fit will do, IMO.

You have a fun little runner there. As for the vaporizer screen; if it's working it should run 300-400 hours without needing cleaned IF you use Coleman/camp fuel, maybe longer.
Chuck
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Eel
I would recommend a Griswold #11 for a 413 but they are a bit hard to come by these days.  I think you could fit a 12 there, Gris made them but I haven't ever seen one.  530 is a fun tea and coffeeeeeeEgad maker! 
One of the true joys of current life is that I get to pick something different to light every night - often something to fix first, sometimes something that already runs.

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Gand28
I wouldn’t expect much help from soaking with WD-40. Kriol is what I use, but a 50/50 acetone/atf mix works too. 

If you have a vice, turn it upside down and put the valve in the vice and turn the fount bottom. Heat will help as recommended. 
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atomicbee
Hmm Griswold #11 for the 413 sounds like a quest Eel, Yes hit it with torch and got some flame outs but she broke free on the 2nd try, FA looked dirty  so I cleaned all parts(spring long pin/nozzle) and reassembled F/A tube in no time. I did the Fount BB roll in vinegar and it seems to be clean without the nasty gunk coming out. Finish the 530 built up tomorrow  and fire her up! Thanks everyone help!
 Bally Coleman Bill
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JimL
If you haven't already, flush with DNA or CF to prevent flash rust.

-Jim

Author of the children’s books:

 - Santa Claus And Other Lies Your Parents Told You
 - Pop! Goes Froggy, And Other Great Microwave Games
 - Operation and Nomenclature of the Colt 1911-A1 .45 ACP

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Gand28
And those parts would be the fuel and air tube and metering rod. Technically these don’t have a generator.  It’s called a vaporizer and I think you already cleaned that. You are on the right track and should be good to go! 
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atomicbee
Hi, yes its was getting late but wanted to post progress on removal of F/A tube, the only thing I didn't due was remove the check valve assembly so I hope it will be ok. Flushed with clean C/Fuel and used this on outside of fount to remove some more surface tarnish.
 Bally Coleman Bill
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Chucker
Good choice, I was recently VERY surprised with the tarnish I got off of a brass lantern with just Bar Keepers Friend and a damp, white 'eraser' type sponge. Worked great. 
Chuck
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Eel
So a perfect moment to just func-check the check valve - with the fuel cap off, one can hook one's lips up to the pump barrel and try breathing out (that should work) and sucking in (that should produce no airflow at all).  Most often the check valve is good.  Often a balky check valve can be healed in place with an application of your favorite carb cleaner.  -- Also you have a golden opportunity to wash the leather debris out of the bottom of the pump tube.

(I've used hot coffee as a check valve cleaner when I had nothing else, with better results than I expected: the acid cleaned the ball up) 

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atomicbee
Yes I been using that Bartenders friend on my sinks and just realized it has other purposes, Eel Nice post of brochure on the 530 and a lot of good information.I did the CL flush and Valve check and was blowing on FA tube when wife walk in and said What are you makin out with this stuff now! B47 is back together and it sounds and runs much better then A-46 so yes just took the FA tube out of A46 and getting ready to put back together on Thursday 
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offrink
I noticed in that pamphlet that there wasn’t a diffuser plate. We’re they not included in the original stove/kit?
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Chucker
Hi Ben. I've never seen or heard from anyone who knows for certain that the diffuser was offered. I don't believe they were. 
Chuck
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Gand28
I’ve never found an original set dated A46 with the plate. Found a few B46 so my thought was it was added later, but no one knows for sure.
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atomicbee
Its a 4 inch diameter and somebody was selling a remake at bays but I found out the one on my gas stove fits perfectly.looking for 2 online or locally
 Bally Coleman Bill
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Colemannut
Greg, I remember discussing this in the past, and I know you were included and we came to the conclusion that the plate was added from the factory on the later B46 and A47 530's. I cant find the thread now since he forum has changed.
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atomicbee
I got a set from OCP and they work great
 Bally Coleman Bill
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Eel
I did the same and they work great!  ;-)

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Griswold #11
  Oops!  That's a #8.  Still a quest...  but a worthy one imho, this is one stellar grill.

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OregonMichael
Colemannut wrote:
Greg, I remember discussing this in the past, and I know you were included and we came to the conclusion that the plate was added from the factory on the later B46 and A47 530's. I cant find the thread now since he forum has changed.


Yes.  The conclusion was that the factory added the plate about a year into production due to complaints about the concentration of heat at the center of the pan or coffee pot.  Most guys were probably using aluminum cookware and the flame was just too hot.  The diffuser plate would be a perfect solution.
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